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Liberty Is an Anti-Darwinian Concept
Creation Evolution Headlines ^ | The Fourth of July, 2018 | David F. Coppedge

Posted on 07/05/2018 11:31:50 AM PDT by fishtank

Liberty Is an Anti-Darwinian Concept

David F. Coppedge

July 4, 2018

The Darwinian worldview that allegedly freed people from ‘religion’ actually enslaves them to the worst kind of tyranny.

In the United States today, Americans will celebrate Independence Day with parties, barbecues, and fireworks. Hopefully mixed in with the fun is some appreciation for the founding principles of America:

* All men are created equal

* Human rights

* Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness

* Liberty and justice for all

* E pluribus unum (out of many, one)

* In God we trust

* The American dream

All of these ideals are profoundly anti-Darwinian. The secular worldview in vogue today, resting on Darwin’s advocacy of nature run by unguided natural processes, cannot derive any of these. In fact, the opposite is true: secularism undermines every one of these, and historically, has fought against them.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: liberty
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To: reasonisfaith
"The term is used in research. Look it up."

The term wasn't the point. The use of it in this discussion was. It's a rather transparent attempt to sound like you know what you are talking about by using some technical term. But it doesn't work because that's exactly what it sounds like, it didn't really belong.

101 posted on 07/07/2018 1:23:22 PM PDT by mlo
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To: reasonisfaith
Aldous Huxley, icon of progressivism

How so? Huxley certainly criticized modern progressive thinking in Brave New World. And in the quote you cite, it sounds like he's now critical of the view he once held.

102 posted on 07/07/2018 1:27:27 PM PDT by x
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To: reasonisfaith

Maybe he should have looked on YouTube too.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/o92x6AvxCFg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvwxrkAdMXY


103 posted on 07/07/2018 1:38:39 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

David Berlinski is a leftist philosopher and mathematician. He rejects evolution theory.

An agnostic bordering on atheism who has enough self confidence to admit the profound deficiencies in evolution theory.

A leftist, agnostic philosopher/mathematician.

“Berlinski received his Ph.D. in philosophy from Princeton University and was later a postdoctoral fellow in mathematics and molecular biology at Columbia University. He has authored works on systems analysis, differential topology, theoretical biology, analytic philosophy, and the philosophy of mathematics, as well as three novels. He has also taught philosophy, mathematics and English at Stanford, Rutgers, the City University of New York and the Université de Paris. In addition, he has held research fellowships at the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis in Austria and the Institut des Hautes Études Scientifiques.”

http://www.davidberlinski.org/biography.php


104 posted on 07/08/2018 10:44:28 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: x

Huxley never left progressivism.

He was a bright guy who saw the logical problems inherent in evolution theory, and thought he could get a pass by owning it, so to speak. Specifically, what he was doing was acknowledging the intellectual error of a specific product of progressivism, while refusing to reject the larger philosophical context on moral grounds.

This trick is not uncommon in the progressivist mind. It’s related to the progressivist delusion that self is god. Another, more common form of this delusion is the claim that communism works if the right people are in charge.


105 posted on 07/08/2018 10:50:41 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: mlo

When you believe a master’s degree and a doctorate don’t mean anything because the person doesn’t agree with your opinion, your perspective is an attempt to discredit all of academia.

In this way, you exclude yourself from all genuine academic thought or discussion.


106 posted on 07/08/2018 10:55:29 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: x

And let’s not forget the epic version from history of this same delusion—that of Pilate and his futile attempt at self absolution in a bowl of water.


107 posted on 07/08/2018 11:12:44 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: x

I’ve never heard anything about Huxley accepting God, so it seems safe to assume his general worldview never changed.

How ironic though, that his renowned work of fiction is a commentary that perfectly illustrates the horrible dystopia awaiting human society when it seeks utopia to the exclusion of God.


108 posted on 07/08/2018 11:14:01 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: reasonisfaith

As for the human inclination to seek utopia.

Our founding fathers were seeking an earthly form of the good society, but not to the exclusion of God. Our founding fathers included God.

And so we can see, as illustrated in this article and the posts of this thread, that Liberty Is an Anti-Darwinian Concept.


109 posted on 07/08/2018 11:20:33 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: reasonisfaith
Huxley was typical of his generation -- even a spokesman for his generation. They couldn't believe in God, especially after the catastrophe of the First World War, but they were appalled at what the world had become. The world looked senseless, horrific, absurd.

In his later years, Huxley turned to mysticism. He did have some sense of a "divine Reality" and a "transcendent Ground of Being" -- quite a change for someone whose grandfather, TH Huxley, had been "Darwin's Bulldog," the apostle of evolution who coined the word "agnostic."

Huxley's brother, Julian, remained a scientist, rationalist, humanist, eugenicist, and an atheist or agnostic. You'd be on solid ground calling Julian Huxley, a signer of the Humanist Manifesto, a progressive, but to characterize Aldous, you might want to read up on mysticism and Aldous's own later philosophy.

Two things you may already know about Aldous Huxley: 1) his mother was the niece of Matthew Arnold who shared some of Huxley's unease about the new Godless world even during the Victorian era, and 2) Aldous Huxley died on the same day as C.S. Lewis and John F. Kennedy.

110 posted on 07/12/2018 4:32:12 PM PDT by x
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To: x

Thanks for your post, from what I can tell you’ve worded it sincerely and carefully. I’ll look more into A. Huxley. I did notice the date of his death and find it quite interesting.

I must say however, that I don’t think there’s ultimately a significant difference between the belief system I refer to as progressivism and any versions of pantheism such as “mysticism,” new age, Buddhism or other eastern religious thought.

If there is such a difference, it probably comes down to some sort of acceptance vs rejection of the supernatural. But I would assert that those who claim to reject the supernatural in fact support it in ways they might not realize.


111 posted on 07/13/2018 7:46:58 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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