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Should We Invade Mexico Mexico
townhall.com ^ | July 5, 2018 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 07/05/2018 9:11:04 AM PDT by Kaslin

One fact a lot of Americans forget is that our country is located right up against a socialist failed state that is promising to descend even further into chaos – not California, the other one. And the Mexicans, having reached the bottom of the hole they have dug for themselves, just chose to keep digging by electing a new leftist presidente who wants to surrender to the cartels and who thinks that Mexicans have some sort of hitherto unknown “human right” to sneak into the United States and demographically reconquer it. There’s a Spanish phrase that describes his ideology, and one of the words is toro.

Mexico is already a failed state, crippled by a poisoned, stratified culture and a corrupt government that have somehow managed to turn a nation so blessed with resources and hardworking people into such a basket case that millions of its citizens see their best option as putting themselves in the hands of gangsters to cross a burning desert to get cut-rate jobs in el Norte. It is a country dominated by bloody drug/human trafficking cartels that like to circulate videos of their members carving up living people. They hang mutilated corpses from overpasses and hijack busloads of citizens to rape and slaughter for fun. Whole police agencies are owned by the cartels. Political candidates live in fear of murder. The people are scared. And this chaos will inevitably grow and spread north.

When the 125-million-man criminal conspiracy that is Mexico falls apart completely, as it will, we are going to have to deal with the consequences. Watch the flood of illegals become a tsunami, a real refugee crisis instead of today’s fake one. Watch the criminal gangs and pathologies of the Third World socialist culture they bring along turn our country into Mexico II: Gringo Boogaloo. And importing a huge mass of foreigners, loyal to a foreign country and potentially susceptible to the reconquista de Aztlan rhetoric of leftists, both among them and among our treacherous liberal elite, would create a cauldron for brewing up violent civil upheaval right here at home.

So, what do we do? We defend ourselves, obviously. But how?

Should we be reactive? Should we continue the fake defense of our border we’re pretending to conduct today? Or should we seriously defend ourselves by building a wall and truly guarding it, and by deporting all illegals we catch inside. But would that even be enough when Mexico collapses?

It’s time to ask: Should we be proactive?

Should we invade Mexico? Should we send our military across the Rio Grande to secure the unstable territory, annihilate the criminal infestation that suppurates there, and impose something resembling order? One thing is certain. The border charade we tolerate today can’t be an option – it’s an open door to the fallout from the failing state next door.

Militarily, there are three obvious courses of action (I had input on this by several people familiar with the issue; none of this reflects any actual operational planning that I or anyone I spoke to is aware of).

One is the Buffer Zone option. We move in and secure a zone perhaps 50-100 miles inside the country, aggressively targeting and annihilating criminal gangs – we know where these bastards are – and thereby seal off the threat until Mexico is secure again and then return the territory once we are assured America is safe.

This is doable, but it would take a huge chunk of our military forces (we would need to call up most of our reserves). The conventional Mexican forces that fought would last for about un momento before being vaporized, but it would spark at a minimum a low-intensity insurgency by cartel hardliners and, at worst, a large one by Mexican patriots, probably using guns left over from when the Obama cartel was shipping them south. Regardless, it would be expensive. There is the “You break it, you buy it” rule. We would end up administering a long strip of territory full of people living, largely, in what Americans consider abject poverty. They would become our problem. Moreover, there is the giving back part – millions of Mexicans might find they like being nieces and nephews of Tio

t’s time to ask: Should we be proactive?

Should we invade Mexico? Should we send our military across the Rio Grande to secure the unstable territory, annihilate the criminal infestation that suppurates there, and impose something resembling order? One thing is certain. The border charade we tolerate today can’t be an option – it’s an open door to the fallout from the failing state next door.

Militarily, there are three obvious courses of action (I had input on this by several people familiar with the issue; none of this reflects any actual operational planning that I or anyone I spoke to is aware of).

One is the Buffer Zone option. We move in and secure a zone perhaps 50-100 miles inside the country, aggressively targeting and annihilating criminal gangs – we know where these bastards are – and thereby seal off the threat until Mexico is secure again and then return the territory once we are assured America is safe.

This is doable, but it would take a huge chunk of our military forces (we would need to call up most of our reserves). The conventional Mexican forces that fought would last for about un momento before being vaporized, but it would spark at a minimum a low-intensity insurgency by cartel hardliners and, at worst, a large one by Mexican patriots, probably using guns left over from when the Obama cartel was shipping them south. Regardless, it would be expensive. There is the “You break it, you buy it” rule. We would end up administering a long strip of territory full of people living, largely, in what Americans consider abject poverty. They would become our problem. Moreover, there is the giving back part – millions of Mexicans might find they like being nieces and nephews of Tio

t’s time to ask: Should we be proactive?

Should we invade Mexico? Should we send our military across the Rio Grande to secure the unstable territory, annihilate the criminal infestation that suppurates there, and impose something resembling order? One thing is certain. The border charade we tolerate today can’t be an option – it’s an open door to the fallout from the failing state next door.

Militarily, there are three obvious courses of action (I had input on this by several people familiar with the issue; none of this reflects any actual operational planning that I or anyone I spoke to is aware of).

One is the Buffer Zone option. We move in and secure a zone perhaps 50-100 miles inside the country, aggressively targeting and annihilating criminal gangs – we know where these bastards are – and thereby seal off the threat until Mexico is secure again and then return the territory once we are assured America is safe.

This is doable, but it would take a huge chunk of our military forces (we would need to call up most of our reserves). The conventional Mexican forces that fought would last for about un momento before being vaporized, but it would spark at a minimum a low-intensity insurgency by cartel hardliners and, at worst, a large one by Mexican patriots, probably using guns left over from when the Obama cartel was shipping them south. Regardless, it would be expensive. There is the “You break it, you buy it” rule. We would end up administering a long strip of territory full of people living, largely, in what Americans consider abject poverty. They would become our problem. Moreover, there is the giving back part – millions of Mexicans might find they like being nieces and nephews of Tio

Oh, in both cases the Europeans would be outraged, which is a powerful argument for these options.

Still, no. Invading Mexico is a bad idea. It would convert the problems of Mexico, created and perpetuated by Mexicans, into our problems. We tried that in the Middle East. It doesn’t work. Making Mexico better for Mexicans is not worth the life of one First Infantry Division grenadier.

But the consequences in America are our problem, and we must solve it. That brings us to the third option – Forward Defense. Think Syria in Sinaloa. We secure the border, with a wall of concrete and a wall of troops, perhaps imposing a no-fly/no-sail zone (excepting our surveillance and attack aircraft), and then conduct operations inside Mexico using special operations forces combined with airpower to target and eliminate the cartels. We would also identify friendly local Mexican police and military officials and support their counter-cartel operations outside of our relationship with the central government – they would be the face of the fight. We would channel Hernán Cortés and, in essence, we would allow friendly Mexican allies, with our substantial direct and indirect support, to create our buffer zone for us.

This avoids the problem of buying Mexico’s problems and making them ours. It’s somewhat deniable; everyone could save face by denying the Yankees have intervened. But the cartels would not just sit there and take it. They would target Americans and probably do so inside the United States. Yet that’s going to happen anyway eventually. This course of action risks the lowest number of US casualties, but perhaps the highest number of Mexican losses.

So no, we should not invade Mexico. There are no good military options, and none are necessary or wise today, but we may eventually have to choose between bad options. Mexico is failing more and more every day. We are not yet at the point of a military solution, but anyone who says that day can never come is lying to himself and to you. We need a wall, but more than that, we need the commitment to American security and sovereignty that a wall would physically represent. The issue is very clear, and we need to be very, very clear about it when we are campaigning in November. Border security. Period.

Are we going to prioritize the interests of liberals who want to replace our militant Normal voters with pliable foreigners and establishment stooges who want to please rich donors by importing countless cheap foreign laborers, or are we going to prioritize the economic security and the physical safety of American citizens by securing our border no matter what it takes?

Come on, open borders mafia, let’s have that discussion. Bueno suerte with that at the ballot box.


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To: Kaslin

Ugh, we don’t need Mexico’s problems.

We need the wall built yesterday. Station the military along it and don’t allow anyone across. ICE needs to be forced to get off their backsides and begin mass deportations immediately of all illegals whether they snuck over the border or somehow forgot to get the heck outta here when their visas expired. ICE also needs to shut down all new immigration until these past crimes are cleaned up.

After it’s cleaned up, limit all student and work visas severely and the first time one of them breaks the law they are immediately sent back.

No illegal protests or demands or them mouthing off. No free perks. They either make it on their own or they’re outta here. No more free charity or babysitting them with perpetual free lifetime care.

And drastically cut aid to other countries. Tough love. They need to grow up already.


61 posted on 07/05/2018 10:14:18 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Interesting.


62 posted on 07/05/2018 10:15:56 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Dusty Road

You don’t need to invade Mexico for what you have in mind. You’re thinking with the wrong head.


63 posted on 07/05/2018 10:17:38 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: NorthMountain

Actually no. The economic model incents the cartels to control the illegals coming through their sector.

The tribute model implies that the cartels say “pay us or else.” Even if that was the deal, if illegals cross, they don’t get paid.

This is a better approach as we are simply outsourcing some of the ICE duties to “private security contractors.” We’re paying for a service, not paying extortion.

The liberals are crying about “Eliminate ICE!”

Let’s grant them their wish, but in a manner they don’t expect.


64 posted on 07/05/2018 10:18:07 AM PDT by HombreSecreto (Iron Maiden? EXCELLENT!)
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To: HombreSecreto

Interesting.


65 posted on 07/05/2018 10:18:35 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: bert

Do you know how many millions of Mexicans live in border towns like Nuevo Laredo and Cuidad Acuna? Do you know there are 1,954 miles of US/Mexico border?

For these 2 reason alones, a Buffer Zone would never work.


66 posted on 07/05/2018 10:19:25 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Roy Moore for the Supreme Court of the USA!)
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To: Kaslin

All that is needed to to just totally close the border, nothing in or out. All planes to Mexico grounded, nothing comes across in the way of trade and last but not least all financial transactions suspended, no money to send home.


67 posted on 07/05/2018 10:19:56 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Kaslin

Make it a colony. We can corner the avocado market and wipe out the cartels there at the same time.


68 posted on 07/05/2018 10:20:58 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Kaslin

CERTAINLY we have the LEGAL RIGHT to invade Mexico, since they cannot control their borders, nor halt the drug violence that spills over. It will only get WORSE when their new Marxist President causes FOOD SHORTAGES!


69 posted on 07/05/2018 10:21:32 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: DariusBane

Start the wall at the Sierra Nevadas and straight north to Canada. The southern border is a given and we can loop it around El Paso. California can either unite with Mexico or go it on their own. They can keep Hawaii but we get Alaska. Puerto Rico should be given back to Spain whether they want it or not. Any of the other territories gives us any guff and they’re on their own. Might as well turn American Samoa into GITMO II. Guam just better make sure it doesn’t tip over.

If libs east of the Sierra Nevada wall don’t see the light, then they get walled off, too. I’ll supply the cornerstone for the wall around Austin.


70 posted on 07/05/2018 10:26:09 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Boogieman

Most Mexican food here originated in Texas so we’ll keep it.


71 posted on 07/05/2018 10:27:08 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: G Larry

It’s long past time we turn a blind eye to their military “accidentally” crossing over.


72 posted on 07/05/2018 10:29:44 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Kaslin

I doubt that Trump is interested in going in and having to kill thousands to millions of Mexicans. Because that is what it would take. It would make Afghanistan look like a cakewalk.


73 posted on 07/05/2018 10:30:51 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Go go Godzilla)
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To: DoodleDawg; Harmless Teddy Bear
Yes. Insanity does not begin to describe it.

So, you WANT to invade Mexico.

I must assume you do, because you declare the author's conclusion, that we should NOT invade Mexico, as "insanity".

No problem, if that's what you actually mean.

74 posted on 07/05/2018 10:31:52 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Marxism: Wonderful theory, wrong species)
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To: All

What is needed is for the GOPe Congress to get off its overpaid posteriors and fully fund The Big Beautiful Wall.


75 posted on 07/05/2018 10:35:02 AM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: IronJack

A few years ago, #1 on Mexico’s GDP was oil. Remittances from the US was #2.


76 posted on 07/05/2018 10:35:36 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: bgill
"Most Mexican food here originated in Texas so we’ll keep it."

I found out about that the first time I tried to order "Mexican Food" in Mexico City and couldn't find it anywhere in the city. What we call Mexican food, the Mexicans call "Tex-Mex" food, and Mexicans don't like or serve it.

77 posted on 07/05/2018 10:39:20 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

We can thank Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson (TX Rino) for allowing law suits against the wall during W’s time.


78 posted on 07/05/2018 10:40:15 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Responsibility2nd

Well then, enclaves where illegals are detained out side the country an for sure not subject to the wildest defensse lawyer claim.

On capture the illegals would immediately deported to a transborder enclave


79 posted on 07/05/2018 10:44:05 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... In August our cities will be burning))
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To: Uncle Miltie

Stock the Rio Grande with gators and piranha.

Saw a show yesterday about vacationing in Big Bend NP. For $5, a Mexican in a row boat will take you from the US side to the Mexican side and back again. Hmm, those coyotes demanding $8k are over charging.


80 posted on 07/05/2018 10:45:42 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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