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1 posted on 06/30/2018 7:52:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 06/30/2018 7:52:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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And she won’t see the irony in wanting to import millions of immigrants, legal and otherwise, who would exponentially exacerbate this situation.


3 posted on 06/30/2018 7:56:35 AM PDT by mrsmel (I wonÂ’t be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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The left must see some sort of gun I don’t — the one that MAKES people take these types of positions.

But I am not overly concerned. Just as $15/hr for fast food = robot restaurants (I think almost ALL MacD’s have order kiosks already), $20/hr minimum for packages gets us those drones they have been talking about for what, 10 years now?


5 posted on 06/30/2018 7:58:55 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ("please pass the winnamins" (/Principled on 6/27/2018))
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It’s too bad that none of these immigrants could be a threat to the jobs of most media employees, that I know of. They’d change their tune so fast their heads would spin. It’s too bad that the elite who want unfettered immigration, section 8, all these social engineering policies, are never affected by them. We need to find ways to fix that.


6 posted on 06/30/2018 7:59:14 AM PDT by mrsmel (I wonÂ’t be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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I’m going to write in caps because this makes me mad and adult language ahead.

AMAZON DELIVERY HAS SUCKED BIG BULL BALLS THE LAST 18 MONTHS. LYING ABOUT DELIVERING PACKAGES, LEAVING PACKAGES AT OTHER HOUSES IN MY AREA.

SCREW THESE DELIVERY PEOPLE AND THEIR LAZY INCOMPETENT THIEVING ASSES.


7 posted on 06/30/2018 8:00:43 AM PDT by snarkytart
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$18/hour for an independent contractor who has to pay all his operating expenses is pathetic. I wouldn’t get out of bed to do that work for a penny less than $50/hour.


8 posted on 06/30/2018 8:02:53 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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Wait until these whiners get dinged by the IRS for not paying quarterly taxes on their 1099 contractor pay.


10 posted on 06/30/2018 8:06:40 AM PDT by moovova
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Strange what some people think they are worth another have not wants more of your stuff.


12 posted on 06/30/2018 8:07:19 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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They will be lucky to net out $9/hr, of course provided that they pay taxes and insurance.


14 posted on 06/30/2018 8:11:18 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (.)
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The ultimate issue is lack of upward mobility for someone willing to start at the bottom in an unskilled job, work hard, and produce their way up the ladder.

Look at American history. We began as an agrarian society. A motivated, industrious individual could go into the wilderness, acquire farmland at little or no cost and own a farm. If he was industrious and highly productive he could acquire wealth by adding to his land holdings and increasing his productivity by investing in equipment (plows, horses, and later machinery) and hiring laborers. The most industrious would eventually own mills, feed stores, and other infrastructure business.

As the nation began to industrialize an unskilled worker could get a job in a factory sweeping floors, moving around boxes and equipment, and doing other menial directed tasks. Those workers who displayed good attitudes, were highly productive, and showed up for work every day on time would eventually be taught a skill. If they continued to produce they had opportunities to move up to higher skilled jobs or even into management. It is noteworthy that many unskilled poor southern rural blacks with no hope of upward movement due to Jim Crow laws moved north in the early to middle 20th century in order to obtain factory jobs and have the chance to improve their economic prospects. They were pursuing the American dream.

The deindustrialization of America, in the pursuit of “free trade”, destroyed many avenues for industrious unskilled and undereducated Americans to move up the economic ladder through hard work and determination. The small factories that once filled urban areas, and were scattered across fly over country are now gone. Also gone are the small businesses that provided raw materials, parts, and services to those factories. In the 20th century small businesses employed most American workers. As small companies grew, their reliable and productive workers had opportunities to grow economically with the business. Today small businesses are failing at a greater rate than they are created for the first time in our history. This closes another door for economic advancement for the unskilled and semi skilled.

The Uber driver and Amazon contract delivery carrier do not have the same opportunity to sacrifice and grow as the floor sweeper in a factory 50 years ago. No matter how hard they work, or how much they produce, as contract workers their earnings are capped and there is no opportunity to develop more valuable skills. The 21st century outsourcing economy is not creating pathways for upward economic mobility for the millions of people with limited skills and education. The replacement of unskilled citizen workers with robots and unskilled immigrants will only exacerbate the situation.

Globalization is killing the American dream by eliminating opportunities for economic advancement. Today there are nearly 100 million Americans of working age who are not employed. Those Americans can vote and if the slow growth 21st century economy continues to provide fewer opportunities for employment and economic progression, the increasing number of unemployed will vote for socialism and redistribution of wealth.


19 posted on 06/30/2018 8:29:15 AM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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They want free college and high pay for unskilled work. Let them go to Venezuela.


25 posted on 06/30/2018 8:47:06 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Search Google for: "politico obama collusion with hezbollah". obama is a traitor to this country.)
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The left must see some sort of gun I don’t — the one that MAKES people take these types of positions.

The upper middle class lifestyle has been depicted as "the norm" throughout all of our media advertising and fictional entertainment for decades, now. If one is not achieving it, it is easy to see how one can come to the conclusion that it is not one's own fault - that someone must be conspiring to deprive one of it.

26 posted on 06/30/2018 8:47:11 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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“And why should they? They aren’t full time employees.”

Here is the problem with that blanket statement. Often employers (not asserting this is true in this case) really walk a thin line on what defines an employee v independent contractor. They do this to avoid costs such as worker’s comp, and other government mandated expenses. Just declaring that a person is working as an independent contractor does not always make it so. There are certain criteria set by IRS and others to determine status.

It does read as though Amazon meets this but many businesses do not. Newspapers those bastion of Liberal sympathy for union demands and higher minimum wage is one great example. Their carriers are “independent contractors” without hardly any true independence.


37 posted on 06/30/2018 10:12:10 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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"One Amazon Flex driver in Cleveland, Chris Miller, 63, told me that though he makes $18 an hour, he spends about 40 cents per mile he drives on expenses like gas and car repairs. "

54.5 cents a mile is the IRS deduction. So he's grossing an additional 14.5 cents a mile in addition to his hourly rate. (Deduction over cost).

43 posted on 06/30/2018 10:25:15 AM PDT by PAR35
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And cashiers should earn $25 per hour right?


44 posted on 06/30/2018 11:30:21 AM PDT by EdnaMode
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Blah, blah, blah.

Until someone puts a Gun to your Head and makes you take a Job, don't bitch about what you volunteered for.

When I was in my late teens and early 20’s, I worked three Part Time Jobs working six and seven days a week while taking Night Classes in College.

One of those Jobs turned into a Career at a Company where I spent 32 Years, working my way up from a Mail Clerk to Regional Vice President.

Frigging Pussies who have the privilege of living in the greatest Nation known to Man. Spit...

46 posted on 06/30/2018 11:39:53 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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he spends about 40 cents per mile he drives on expenses like gas and car repairs.

well bless his heart. And he takes the standard 55cent per mile deduction off his itemized taxes. (is it still 55cents?) So he's making a 15cent profit per mile. My little heart breaks for his struggles. /s

47 posted on 06/30/2018 11:52:46 AM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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For years I made $20/hr.(on commission,not by the clock)in a skilled job,so the employer paid half of S.S.,etc. No meaningful tax deductions except standard exemptions on a 1040. I had to buy my own tools,had no health insurance almost the whole time as it was way more than I could afford.. Of course,car expense was my own as well. I don’t know if the independent contractor or myself got the worst end of it. Like the independent contractor,I had no company retirement,either. I did get paid vacation & holidays.


51 posted on 06/30/2018 5:05:11 PM PDT by oldtech
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What, is this entire piece written by Roseanne Rosannadanna? The whole premise of this article is bogus. The Amazon contractor makes that amount before having to pay for the costs, including gas, of the vehicle. That means the actual compensation is far below that. The same has been happening to Lyft users, as it does at times with taxi drivers: making less than the minimum wage, which is allowed through the loophole of their being “contractors”.

Sure, they can and ought to just take a job elsewhere, but I don’t see anything wrong with them exposing the scam, trying to change it, and warning others.


54 posted on 07/01/2018 1:55:18 AM PDT by 9YearLurker (Jeanette Green)
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