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Pence tells Central American leaders to do more to stem illegal immigration to the U.S.
LA Times ^ | 28 Jun 2018 | Patrick J. McDonnell and Tracy Wilkinson

Posted on 06/29/2018 2:03:40 AM PDT by blueplum

Vice President Mike Pence demanded that Central American nations do more to stem illicit immigration, charging that few asylum seekers from the region had legitimate claims to safe haven in the United States.

“This exodus must end,” Pence told a meeting of leaders here Thursday from Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras — which make up the so-called Northern Triangle that produces much of the illegal migration traffic to the U.S.-Mexico border. {snip}

The vice president called on the Central American countries to take a number of specific steps, including …. removing “public advertisements for human traffickers within your nations” — the last an apparent reference to travel agencies, transport companies and other firms that publicly offer to facilitate trips to the U.S.-Mexico border.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bordersecurity; centralamerica; elsalvador; guatemala; honduras; immigration; pence; trumpillegals; venezuela; vppence
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To: no-to-illegals
Where were you when Obama was advertising in Mexico about how to gain sanctuary and reap benefits?

If you don't think our politicians invited them in, aided and abetted their coming and staying, then you are an even bigger problem - those who choose to ignore reality cannot be depended upon to be of any useful help in straightening out the problem.

The United States cannot save the world but mark my words ... the United States is slow to anger but the United States can be angry. You would not like the United States when we become angry

Said the punk who considered himself a righteously tough guy. What individual in his right mind speaks like that?

I hate the invasion as much as anyone....the same politicians who caused the problem have to be coerced into fixing it and that is what Trump is trying to do - having nut-jobs (much like the loony Left) threatening to go on a killing rampage (only way your idiot comment can be read) is what will give the Left the leverage they want to have the government stomp the People - that's what the Left wants more than anything right now.

When the People get angry enough - and united enough (hard to believe that so many who like to whine while never actually investing their time and money in the causes they claim to espouse will ever organize enough to be effective - look at how many FReepers never get around to donating - that's the pool we have to work with and it's depressing) to scare the politicians into doing the right thing, we will lose.

Anyone paying attention knows the politicians are the problem and the enemy but we have our anger misdirected in a way that ensures we are at the disadvantage - Trump realizes it but too many others won't allow their minds to grasp the reality.

61 posted on 06/30/2018 3:11:38 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: no-to-illegals
Let's get back to my original question - what's your proposed solution? I spent 24 years in uniform and 15 years training those in uniform - more service than the majority of folks here - or most anywhere.....has nothing to do with this particular topic as I have been in mufti for a few years now and am an ordinary citizen who loves the Nation and the Constitution and Freedom, and hates the politicians who have done their best to destroy all three. Pray away but staying willfully ignorant and delusional don't qualify you to intimate any impugning of my history and record.

What is your solution? If you don't have a clear and workable solution in mind, then all you are doing is posturing and blowing smoke.

62 posted on 06/30/2018 3:17:18 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: BeauBo

I get the impression the Creole elites of Latin America are clearing their land of “surplus peasants” in the same manner England tried to clear Ireland for use as grazing land for livestock...


63 posted on 06/30/2018 9:48:18 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: no-to-illegals; trebb
Look to the illegals home leadership The illegals should fix their countries themselves. The United States cannot save the world

and there, my FRiends, is the solution. Equipping the illegals to fix their own country.

Right now, we send illegals back to their country without so much as a fair-thee-well. This builds resentment and a false sense of entitlement of being denied. Which works out perfectly for the home country because they get to focus and then hide behind all the heat on America.

So, let's try something different. Let's announce to the Triangle and Mesico, that starting next month, every illegal will be given 3-days of community organizing for democracy classes prior to being deported. Let's harness that Latina 'passion' for demonstrating, complaining, marching and making speeches. Then send them home to their leaders with our compliments.

And for icing, hold every single MadMax Dem/Socialist mouth to the fire by asking them why they aren't down in the affected countries giving their canned race-pimping 'save the children' speeches, instead of flying around on taxdollars perpetuating the American Apology Tour?

64 posted on 06/30/2018 12:49:24 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: BeauBo

IIRC, Obama had buses and planes ready to transport the DACA children and pretend children all over the USA. I don’t think that any were sent to Malibu or Nantucket.


65 posted on 06/30/2018 2:47:16 PM PDT by Freee-dame (Best election ever!)
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To: trebb

First ... thank you for your service to our nation. Sincerely Thank You. Trebb I’ve been here at FR for many years and worked in many political endeavors so most of your post is Void. America is always at a disadvantage in any crisis that arises or is slow to anger. America is in the midst of a simmering conflict that will have to play itself out. I am only one and I’m growing older by the day. When the running retreat begins if there is a running retreat I will stay behind to cover the retreat. If you are my age you learn the battle is for the young. I raised my young and they are well educated and Conservative. Prayers your young are educated and Conservative as well. Little or nothing I say makes any difference with those that hate America and America’s Citizens. I will remain active politically but I will mostly remain stealth. Keeps the enemy guessing


66 posted on 06/30/2018 11:45:33 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (..There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/illegals/lamestream media ...)
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To: trebb

Trebb if you consider my prior posts as being from a punk and blowing smoke then there is no need for you to engage me I will be me. If that bothers you then I cannot help with simple conversation. Maybe this post makes me a punk also, if so, so be it.


67 posted on 06/30/2018 11:54:07 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (..There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/illegals/lamestream media ...)
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To: trebb

Oh btw my children and I also have grandchildren are all proud of our Constitution and Nation. My family Is four generations of law enforcers lawfully. Want military experience ?? My family for generations has been Army and Air Force. Don’t like to brag but I myself have been 7 layers deep and real up close. Most of the time though it was I that was under observation. I’m not there anymore either. You and I are not the only ones here with experience. So a handshake and a thank you for your posts


68 posted on 07/01/2018 12:37:01 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (..There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/illegals/lamestream media ...)
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To: blueplum

I like that idea of sending them mad max. Been smiling ever since having read


69 posted on 07/01/2018 1:08:16 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (..There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/illegals/lamestream media ...)
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To: blueplum; no-to-illegals
Good to hear fro, someone w/o spittle spraying from his angry lips.....It would be nice if we could do that w/o getting into nation-building and/or funding the deal - until the Congress becomes willing (or can be forced) to seal the borders and turn off the invasion spigot, our side will remain "unhappy". If/when it happens, the other side will have another meltdown.

Without the Congress doing its job, task is as close to impossible as anything can be....some think Trump can do it himself because they want to believe that - then they have a target to be mad at even though it's the wrong target - even as being mad at the invaders is not 100% on target.

The government created the problem via Bush-type "compassionate conservatism" and pure socialistic liberalism and the government needs to do its job - and it may take some of what you offer up - the the question is how to get these other countries to start being more benign to their citizens w/o getting involved in things that will just anger more of our base - it may be hard to rid them of the dictators/Cartels that keep them in turmoil...in today's world, it's much harder for the oppressed to get the needed footing to be an effective resistance w/o outside help and many of our own who hate the situation are just as rabid about such intervention.....they won't generally come out and say it but they seem to think maybe some wholesale killing of the invaders would be justifiable.

At any rate, the best start is to stop the flow and begin to purge the worst as we get a handle on it and stick with it until stasis is reached - hard to imagine a follow-on to Trump that would be as hard-working for it so keeping him for 8 years is our current best bet.

The one obvious thing is that nearly no one will be fully happy with any of it....reality bites....

70 posted on 07/01/2018 2:03:29 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: no-to-illegals
Finally = stated in a way I can agree....while I have my hackles up over some of the conversations, I want a solution as much as the next guy but know it will take a concerted effort to fix the ills that have been visited upon us by an ever left-leaning government.

I apologize for most of my previous interactions - as my wife would say, it looks like most FReepers are a "passionate" bunch and it causes a lot of fur to fly - I think we suffer the same concerns but have different areas of angst and different views on how to fix it...causes hard feelings but also keeps life interesting....

Been on "vacation" for a few weeks and have a few days left to get home - getting tired and "edgy" as I am also getting "up there" and my lowered energy levels are making me even more snappish than usual.

You are right - the battle will have to be taken up by the young and that's probably got most of us worried because so many have been brainwashed - my own are conservative and not shy about it but too many align with the Left these days.

Maybe we are being relegated to becoming the Rear Guard as we get older ... here's hoping we have a worthy army to defend.

71 posted on 07/01/2018 2:16:24 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: no-to-illegals

Once again — I apologize.


72 posted on 07/01/2018 2:17:00 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: no-to-illegals

Thanks again and apologies again...we have 2 living children, 8 grand children and 2 great grand children. The adults are conservative and I have hopes the younger ones will grow up with the same values....most of our own fights are really for our coming generations and I think that keeps our own “passions” high...their futures depend so much on what we can manage to get done....I’m spending some of their inheritance on helping Trump and other conservatives...hope it is being well spent.


73 posted on 07/01/2018 2:21:44 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: trebb

No need for an apology. I love passion as much as the next person also. If I offended you earlier I offer my apology. A handshake FRiend. I too worry but will take up the position of rear guard willfully without objection. Maybe we will get lucky. My better half says I love getting lucky. Better half is right. Kudos and best wishes to you and yours.


74 posted on 07/01/2018 8:37:32 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (..There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/illegals/lamestream media ...)
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To: trebb

Trebb they are our children and grandchildren thus I as you if the need arises will lay down my life willingly to defend them. Our children and grandchildren are the arrows of our bows. They are the worthiest of our army as you know. Good luck and God’s speed to both of us


75 posted on 07/01/2018 8:44:59 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (..There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/illegals/lamestream media ...)
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To: no-to-illegals

God Bless, FRiend.


76 posted on 07/02/2018 1:41:05 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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