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To: central_va; traderrob6; rockrr; BillyBoy; Mariner; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj

ROTFLMAO

And why’d they want to secede? To preserve slave power. The modern day analogue would be corporations and liberals seeking to secede over preserving cheap illegal labor/illegal votes.

Corey should be talking about issues that are GD relevant to the lives of his prospective constituents not making a monkey out of himself spewing nonsense.

Stop twisting yourselves into pretzels with horsecrap like “it wasn’t about slavery” and let the Confederacy die already.


70 posted on 06/25/2018 4:14:59 PM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Impy

There are a lot benefits to secession that only a Southerner can understand. Breaking free of the New England power structure and separating from the haughty self righteous puritans being some of them.


72 posted on 06/25/2018 4:17:29 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Impy
Heh. Googling this guy, it looks like he's had a hardcore neo-confederate fetish for a while, but was actually born and raised in Minnesota, and didn't move to VA until he was an adult.

Gosh, he's one of those "damnyankee transplants" whose "trying to tell us born and bred southrons what to do with OUR state" then. Ironically, he ALSO is a politician from "Northern Virginia" (Prince William County to be exact), and thus "not a REAL Virginian" ;-)

Stewart sounds like a pi$$ poor GOP candidate, either E.W. Jackson OR Nick Freitas (his opponents in the primary) would have run better general election campaigns. But I consider VA to be a solid RAT state now (most of my fellow FReepers are still in denial about that. Yes, there are still pockets of strongly conservative areas, but the state OVERALL is Safe Rat now) so I can't blame Kaine's inevitable re-election on this goofball.

103 posted on 06/25/2018 4:47:15 PM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: Impy
And why’d they want to secede? To preserve slave power.

This silly claim gets repeated endlessly. Let me remind you of the constitutional process. It takes 3/4ths of the states to pass an amendment. It would take an amendment to abolish slavery.

Let's see. 11 slave states in the Confederacy would have required 44 total states in the Union to give them the 33 states needed to pass an amendment against the opposition of those 11.

It took till 1896 to get what would have been the 44th state. Now add to the opposition of the 11 Confederate states, the Opposition of the 4 or 5 Union slave states. That means you would have to have 64 states in the Union to override the objection of the slave states, if all the slave states held together.

So how was "Slave Power" threatened? Looks impossible to topple "Slave Power" in any reasonable length of time.

Lincoln himself said this at his first inaugural.

I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.

He says he has no lawful right to do so. (Boy, he changed his mind about that, didn't he?)

298 posted on 06/25/2018 10:06:24 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Impy

As an immigrant I don’t expect you to understand the true meaning of US history. You are not a native born American as such your roots are shallow.


339 posted on 06/26/2018 4:52:16 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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