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America the Horrible?
City Journal ^ | June 14, 2018 | Heather Mac Donald

Posted on 06/15/2018 9:19:09 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: Responsibility2nd

Read it first

“Surely, a Third World person of color would be better off staying in his home country, where he is free from genocidal whiteness and the murderous legacy of Western civilization and Enlightenment values.”

Notice the question mark?

Her thesis is amusing


21 posted on 06/15/2018 10:06:39 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: reaganaut1

Folks, you are wildly misunderstanding Heather’s point.

Go to City Journal and you’ll see a single small paragraph encapsulate her point:

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America the Horrible?

Progressives say that the United States is racist and misogynist, but they still want everyone in the world to come here.

Heather Mac Donald
June 14, 2018


22 posted on 06/15/2018 10:06:50 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberals, go find another country.)
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To: Made In The USA

Read it before you comment

“Surely, a Third World person of color would be better off staying in his home country, where he is free from genocidal whiteness and the murderous legacy of Western civilization and Enlightenment values.”


23 posted on 06/15/2018 10:07:18 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Tom in SFCA

I’m equally shocked. Heather MacDonald is required reading.


24 posted on 06/15/2018 10:09:45 AM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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To: Ouderkirk; Tom in SFCA; Nifster; reaganaut1

See post 13.

We didn’t misread anything. We were misled.

If people will not properly post an article, then the result is what it is.

Chaos and misinformation.

Probably intentional.


25 posted on 06/15/2018 10:13:11 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: reaganaut1
In their open-borders afternoon mode, progressives paint the U.S. as the only source of hope and opportunity for low-skilled, low-social-capital Third Worlders; a place obligated by its immigration history to take in all comers, forever.

What they actually think of the U.S. isn't "land of opportunity" but "land of redistribution", and the people who the progressives want to come here are not intended to contribute, but to consume a surplus that was illegitimately constructed off the efforts of the usual victim classes. Wealth is theft, goes this line of thought, and theft must be punished.

There is, in addition, a sort of level of abstraction going on with this ideology - such inequalities are intolerable on a national level but perfectly permissible locally. Many of the proponents are, after all, residents of comfortable academic enclaves and gated communities, more or less immune from the thunderbolts of righteousness they are calling down upon others. When one is, heaven help us, "woke" to the injustice of inequality, one has transcended any guilt for participation. Convenient doctrine.

So yes, those of us in coveralls do occasionally find the stern lecturing from people in thousand-dollar suits to be a bit tiresome. These are the real privileged in this society, wealthy, immune, and utterly convinced of their own moral superiority. It's often a permanent affliction.

26 posted on 06/15/2018 10:22:17 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Responsibility2nd

Responsibility2nd wrote: “Wrong. IF the intent was to ridicule the femi-nazi drivel that is spewed out in that first paragraph, then reganaut1 is to blame for not posting a more accurate excerpt. You know the rules here.

If you had bothered to read the 3rd paragraph, it would have been clear that your, and most other comments, were nothing more than ill-advised knee-jerk reactions.

Reading before you type will help prevent your looking ill-informed.


27 posted on 06/15/2018 10:51:06 AM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

:)


28 posted on 06/15/2018 10:58:37 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Tom in SFCA

“I’m laughing at all of the FReepers who can’t read.

This site has gone full retard.”

I’m always disappointed when I see FReepers fall into groupthink, which is what happened here. The first few comments were from people who obviously did not read beyond the first paragraph (you only had to read two sentences beyond that to know it was sarcastic), then most everyone else fell right into line. It took way too long for people to realize their mistake, and then some of them blamed the poster for their not reading the article!


29 posted on 06/15/2018 10:59:19 AM PDT by suthener
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To: DugwayDuke

I read that 3rd paragraph. It is as far removed from the train of thought she started in with the first paragraph as Trump is from Obama.

How she can jump from a pro-feminazi POV to thoughts about immigration asylum is amazing.

Absurdly amazing.

It is NOT the average FReeper’s responsibility to click the link to get the big picture.

Those three paragraphs were bad enough. Why would I want to waste more time?


30 posted on 06/15/2018 10:59:52 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Well said ... As I read the first few comments I wondered if those commenters had even read past the first paragraph.


31 posted on 06/15/2018 11:06:45 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (Healthcare Insurance is *NOT* a Constitutional right.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Fair enough


32 posted on 06/15/2018 11:30:27 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Responsibility2nd; reaganaut; Made In The USA; Kudsman; Caipirabob
Note the headline: "America the Horrible?"

That question mark should have been your first clue.

First sentence of 2nd paragraph:

"These propositions are self-evident to a large, interlocking establishment of government bureaucrats, progressive politicians, college administrators, faculty, “activists,” professionals, and journalists. Yet ..."

That should have given you inklings #2, 3, and 4. Bureaucrats do not call themselves "bureaucrats." (They call themselves "people dedicated to public service.") 'Activists' don't put scare-quotes around the word 'activists'. And if this isn't setting up a paradox, your next sentence wouldn't begin with the word "Yet"

From there on, your keen, incisive intelligence would have carried you swiftly to Heather Macdonald's well-thought-out conclusion about progressives destroying lawfulness, and denying our legacy of tolerance and justice.

Ready Readers' Rule #1: Be Alert to Context Clues.

33 posted on 06/15/2018 11:46:48 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Philosophy is a battle against the bewitchment of our intelligence bymeans of language.-Wittgenstein)
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To: polymuser; bgill; Little Bill; Crusader
This is for you, too.

#8

...and...

#33

34 posted on 06/15/2018 11:51:57 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Philosophy is a battle against the bewitchment of our intelligence bymeans of language.-Wittgenstein)
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To: ByteMercenary; reaganaut; Tom in SFCA; Ouderkirk
For some, your best bet is to stick to on-the-nose literalness, short words, and big bright crayola colors.


35 posted on 06/15/2018 12:00:03 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Philosophy is a battle against the bewitchment of our intelligence bymeans of language.-Wittgenstein)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Kudsman; Made In The USA

Is there anyone left at FR who can read and understand an article?


36 posted on 06/15/2018 12:04:52 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
It is NOT the average FReeper’s responsibility to click the link to get the big picture.

Those three paragraphs were bad enough. Why would I want to waste more time?

I suggest sticking with coloring books, which are obviously more your speed.

37 posted on 06/15/2018 12:06:13 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; reaganaut; Made In The USA; Kudsman; Caipirabob

Mrs. Don-o. Did you read the entire thread before posting? No you did not. For if you had, you would have seen additional comments by me defending my position. If you had read the thread, you would have seen arguments that would have prompted you to forego your lecture on reading. Or at least addressed those relevant points.

Rather presumptious of you to criticize others from reading. When you clearly didn’t read either.

Perhaps you ought to limit your criticism to writing. Ms. Macdonald should be made aware that there was no possible connection between her first paragraph and the rest of the article. You might think she tied the two disparate trains of thought together. But she failed.


38 posted on 06/15/2018 12:06:19 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Mrs. Don-o

LMAO.


39 posted on 06/15/2018 12:06:21 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Alex Jones isnÂ’t quite the wing nut now, all things considered.)
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To: polymuser
She must have had a bad daddy, or no daddy and a toxic mommy.

Heather is a brilliant researcher and writer. It isn't her fault that morons can't understand what she writes.

40 posted on 06/15/2018 12:08:39 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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