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To: ClearCase_guy; Pelham
You are making the mistake of adopting tactics that assume the Left has a valid argument, when they adopt Misdirection: Familiar Leftist Tactic, on racial questions.

The causes of the problems in the Black community have been deliberately misrepresented, by Leftwing whites, in a manner that prevents actual solution.

You also, I think, are confusing "Civil Rights," and "Civil Liberties." The first are rights conferred by over-reaching Government. The latter are the Natural Rights, recognized in the Declaration of Independence. (Declaration Of Independence--With Study Guide)

161 posted on 06/15/2018 9:36:18 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan; Pelham

I don’t intend to pursue this — I think the Internet goes downhill when someone (like me) insists on arguing endlessly until they “win”. I don’t feel that I need to “win” this point.

I will say this: You both are making good points. Strictly speaking, I think you are Right on this matter.

But I wonder —

Do you realize that the great mass of undecided voters don’t care about your nuanced and logical and correct explication on this matter? The man in the street isn’t listening to you and does not realize how correct you are.

The man in the street believes that the GOP is the party of the racists. He knows this “fact” because the media tells him it is so. And Ron Howard would agree. That whole Trump MAGA thing? Well, the man in the street is told that this is a racist dog whistle.

Your well constructed argument is not persuasive to the man in the street in the times in which we live.

I do understand why you disagree with my point, but I will gently say again that if we seek to persuade people that the GOP is NOT the party of the racists then perhaps reminding them that the 1964 Civil Rights Act (which meant so much to Martin Luther King) was only passed because the Republicans supported it over Democrat opposition.

As a point of persuasion that Trump is not the leader of a racist political party, I think this has some merit in today’s political climate. And politics is really about persuasion.

I would also add that activists like Ron Howard ask loaded questions like “When was America great?” because he’s hoping — really, really hoping — that some lamebrain Republican will pick some year which just happens to fall in the time period was slavery was legal, or Jim Crow was in force or Blacks were kept off voting rolls in some states. Just pick a year like “1950” and he’s ready to pounce all over that, you dirty racist!!

If you highlight a major piece of civil rights legislation which the GOP supported and which the Democrats did not support, then — as a tool of political persuasion for the man in the street in 2018 — I think it’s not the worst argument.

But, again, I grant you — for the true political aficionado, you really are more correct than I am. I do see that.


164 posted on 06/15/2018 9:51:13 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Yes, I get it - racism is bad and mutual respect and inclusion is good. But value Truth too.)
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