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Census Bureau’s chief scientist warned secretary in memo against adding citizenship question
The Hill ^ | 06/10/18 | Jacqueline Thomsen

Posted on 06/10/2018 9:00:33 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

An internal memo from the chief scientist of the U.S. Census Bureau warned Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross against adding a question on citizenship to the 2020 census.

John Abowd, the agency’s chief scientist and associate director for research and methodology, wrote in the January memo that adding a citizenship question would be "very costly, harms the quality of the census count, and would use substantially less accurate citizenship status data than are available from administrative sources."

The document also states that adding the questions would create "major potential quality and cost disruptions" for the 2020 census.

The memo does say that the cost of adding the question would be minimal and would create a "direct measure of self-reported citizenship for the whole population."

However, Abowd’s overall argument is against adding the question, stating that "citizenship status is misreported at a very high rate for non-citizens."

CNN reported that Democrats on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee released the internal memo on Saturday.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abowd; census; democrats; illegalaliens; obamasfault; obamunism
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To: a fool in paradise

>>Restoring the question.<<

Yes — I believe it was there 2 censuses (censi?) ago.


21 posted on 06/10/2018 9:33:52 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (robert mueller is an unguided missile)
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To: Paladin2

He could have been hired by any of the past 4 Presidents and sound the same.


22 posted on 06/10/2018 9:34:02 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Reno89519

>>Reassign this “scientist” to do research somewhere distant. Like send him to Afghanistan to help their census bureau organize a carry out a census.

<<

Right place, wrong stats. He should survey personally the effectiveness of EIDs.


23 posted on 06/10/2018 9:34:44 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (robert mueller is an unguided missile)
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To: EagleUSA

Bush League Republicans say the same things.


24 posted on 06/10/2018 9:35:13 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: mouser

If we just count CITIZENS in california alone I wonder how many repetition electoral votes they would lose


The Constitution requires a count of people (except for non-taxed Indians) not citizens, so California shouldn’t lose any electoral votes, as long as the non-citizens are counted. What scares the democrats is that the illegals will avoid the census. We should encourage them to avoid being counted.


25 posted on 06/10/2018 9:36:43 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Gay State Conservative
To get it I was required to present a US passport or US birth certificate,my Social Security card (*not* laminated),a current driver's license or state ID and two pieces of mail from banks,the government,etc.

And Heaven forbid, you should want to vote. You don’t even need to provide an 18th birthday card.

26 posted on 06/10/2018 9:40:02 AM PDT by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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To: yesthatjallen

The Open Border Leftists do not want the public to know there may be 50 million or more non-citizens living in the USA.

Furthermore, they are concerned that the voting data will show that more people are voting than are citizens in a huge number of counties.

Drain the swamp.


27 posted on 06/10/2018 9:54:44 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: yesthatjallen

That’s why we need the question. Put it in and keep it in. If criminals are afraid to answer, that’s okay. They are heading back to their real homes if the rule of law is restored, so there is no point in counting them.


28 posted on 06/10/2018 9:56:48 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: wbarmy

Non-citizens will lie about their status. That is the point of putting it back on the census. If they lie, they add one more federal charge in addition to being here illegally.


29 posted on 06/10/2018 10:05:57 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: yesthatjallen

What’s the difference?

On Motor Voter Forms the Illegal Invaders check the Citizen Box and not one person has ever been charged with Perjury because of it because NOBODY checks to see if they are Citizens.

Fake Birth Certificate, fake Social Security Number = Fake Democrat Voter and Jury Member. Think about that if you ever go to Trial. Jury of your Peers, LOL.

Motor Voter, the biggest Voter Fraud scam ever devised.


30 posted on 06/10/2018 10:11:51 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: Paladin2

Fire the political “scientist”.

What insubordination!


31 posted on 06/10/2018 10:14:58 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: yesthatjallen

A Census “scientist”?


32 posted on 06/10/2018 10:51:07 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: VeniVidiVici
A Census “scientist”?

Maybe his Global Warming Climate Change grant ran out so he found a different gig. /s

33 posted on 06/10/2018 10:58:15 AM PDT by ken in texas
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To: yesthatjallen

I guess the Census People don’t give a damned about how many people in this country are actually citizens.

They value the non-citizen more.


34 posted on 06/10/2018 10:59:10 AM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: yesthatjallen

So if you ask them they will lie and say they are citizens. If you do not ask them, you just count them as citizens. So if only a few admit they are non-citizens you come out on top.


35 posted on 06/10/2018 11:00:50 AM PDT by pas
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To: yesthatjallen
However, Abowd’s overall argument is against adding the question, stating that "citizenship status is misreported at a very high rate for non-citizens."

Perhaps the census "scientists" should do a little scientific research on Tinder. They'll find that another one of their questions, namely "Relationship Status", is even more widely misreported.

36 posted on 06/10/2018 12:08:04 PM PDT by edwinland
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To: yesthatjallen

Census records should immediately be turned over to ICE. Not that ICE would bother acting on the info.


37 posted on 06/10/2018 12:08:13 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: odawg

Yet they came up with the money for ink to ask us if are we Hispanic or not at doctor offices, etc...they don’t have a problem telling us to press 1 for English...and so on..


38 posted on 06/10/2018 12:52:44 PM PDT by Ros42
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To: yesthatjallen
John Abowd, the agency’s chief scientist and associate director for research and methodology, wrote in the January memo that adding a citizenship question would be "very costly, harms the quality of the census count, and would use substantially less accurate citizenship status data than are available from administrative sources."

Why does John Abowd still have a government job?

Serious question...

39 posted on 06/10/2018 1:25:24 PM PDT by publius911 ( If we let it, California will lead us all over the cliff.)
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To: TexasGator
Interesting, he also says the illegals would lie.

That is the whole point, genius!

Lie? Immediate deportation...
Tell the truth? Immediate deportation.

Win-win...

40 posted on 06/10/2018 1:28:35 PM PDT by publius911 ( If we let it, California will lead us all over the cliff.)
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