Posted on 06/09/2018 11:32:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Were you SDS?
The Gulf of Tonkin incident was faked, the USS Maddox wasn’t attacked.
The draft is immoral, therefore we should not obey immoral laws.
My father detested Ali. He was career US Navy and began his service during WW2. My mother was a WAVE in WW2.
I doubt that he would approve of a pardon if he were still alive.
What does this mean? The stupid were not drafted? Clay did not appear that stupid.
Joe Louis put on the uniform and then a grateful government broke him and stole his money via the IRS of the time.
I think the problem was not the fact that he was found guilty, but he got a much longer sentence than most white, middle class “conscientious objectors” who refused to do alternative service. I knew several of them (I was in college at the time) and they got, max, 18 months.
Possibly he was made an example of, because blacks were being drafted in great numbers then (with no deferments unless you knew how to get them, which poor blacks didn’t) and the government wanted to make an example of him.
Pardon G. GORDON LIDDY.
Thank you! The draft was involuntary servitude and one of the worst products of the progressive movement. Whatever his motives, Ali played a large part in the end of this statist atrocity and all conservatives should thank him.
Possibly he was made an example of, because blacks were being drafted in great numbers then (with no deferments unless you knew how to get them, which poor blacks didn’t) and the government wanted to make an example of him.
Hey! What's the deal with all this thoughtful commentary and accurate historical perspective about racial disparity and prison sentences?
Don't you know that only knee-jerk hatred is allowed with respect to Muhammad Ali regarding this incident?
Get with the program, man...
There was no question about his conviction, and in hindsight, the story does not change.
Not sure what is gained by a pardon.
Beautifully stated.
That may be true. But now there is a problem. Suppose he does not issue the pardon. Then the race pimps can point to Trump and say he is a racist because he did not issue a pardon to a black man because he was black.
Of course, they will point to him and say he is a racist anyway, but that is not relevant.
Personally, I thought every draft dodger from the Vietnam era should have been granted a blanket pardon the day after Bill Clinton was elected president in 1992.
That is essentially what it means. The armed forces exclude a lot of people in lower intelligence classifications because a disproportionate amount of time and effort will be required to train them to proficiency.
What’s funny is that Ali endorsed Reagan. Also they ignore the answer he gave about what he thought of Africa, after fighting Foreman in Zaire, ‘Thank God My Granddaddy got on that boat!’
Can you imagine the outcry if somebody made that statement today?
What was Ali found guilty of? The SC ruled in his favor.
That would have been a little redundant since Jimmy Carter had already pardoned them in 1977.
Which raises the juxtaposition between pardoning draft dodgers who ran to Canada and pardoning Ali who stayed and fought his case in the courts willing to take the consequences of losing.
That is what I thought, that is why he could continue to fight.
Actually, I have read that it is a myth, the Blacks were not overrepresented in the draft or combat.
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