Posted on 06/08/2018 7:05:12 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
DOES Louisiana hot sauce, a principal ingredient in the spicy New Orleans cocktail sauce commonly served with raw shellfish, kill certain bacteria found in raw oysters?
The answer is yes, at least in the laboratory, researchers said in a preliminary report at a national scientific meeting on microbes and antibiotics yesterday. Principal ingredients of the traditional New Orleans cocktail sauce were found to kill a rare but sometimes fatal bacteria called Vibrio vulnificus.
Dr. Sanders said that he saw his first case of V. vulnificus infection 10 years ago and that his interest in studying the sauces arose from lectures he had given about life-threatening infections. In his lectures he often showed a slide showing Tabasco sauce, horseradish and ketchup on raw oysters on ice. "The reason we don't see more cases of V. vulnificus is because of what we put on oysters," Dr. Sanders often told his audience in jest.
A few years ago the joking gave rise to a serious theory and testing. The researchers added Louisiana hot sauce to cultures of vibrio growing in test tubes. "The next day, I couldn't believe what happened," Dr. Sanders said. The sauce inhibited V. vulnificus and a number of other bacteria that can cause intestinal illness. Among them was another member of the vibrio family, the bacterium that causes cholera.
Even when the solution was diluted to one part in 16, the cocktail sauce killed V. vulnificus in five minutes or less, Dr. Sanders' team reported at the Interscience Conference on Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy in New Orleans.
Dr. Sanders said he had learned that many years ago people in Louisiana put acetic acid, or vinegar, on oysters. But the acid did not taste good, so they added peppers, horseradish and other spices.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Note that Wasabi and ginger both kill bacteria on raw fish, it is why it tastes so good with sushi.
I’ve always squeezed fresh sliced lemons on the half shells and let them sit for a few minutes before plunging them into the aforementioned hot as hell cocktail sauce and slurping them down. Can’t be too careful these days, used to just eat them as-is but can’t take chances these days.
I’d read before that pickling fish kills bacteria. I guess vinegar kills anything.
No one and I mean no one has ever gotten sick from pickled or fermented (pickle/kraut like fermentation) food. I exclude badly butchered Fugu, Death Caps and other will kill yous from the category.
http://www.rainbowcooking.co.nz/recipes/cape-pickled-fish
It is delicious. Cod works fine here in the US. Dont pay for the Sea Bass. Not worth it. Can gaurandamnedtee you wont get sick from it. (My salivary glands are in overdrive just with me typing about it)
CDC says:
“Hot sauce and lemon juice don’t kill Vibrio bacteria.”
https://www.cdc.gov/vibrio/vibrio-oysters.html
Doesn’t mean the study isn’t correct but CDC says it won’t kill Vibrio bacteria.
No one and I mean no one has ever gotten sick from pickled or fermented (pickle/kraut like fermentation) food
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Very true. I’ve had occasion where I’ve perhaps overindulged in nuoc mam, kimchi or good German sauerkraut but I don’t recall ever becoming sick as a consequence.
My wife and I agree with you.
We were both shocked with how good tasting pickled fish can be, especially cod.
Try that recipe. Go heavy on turmeric. Add a tablespoon or two. Healthiest food you could ever eat. (Cook naked because turmeric stains don’t come out)
How well does it work with char-grilled or smoked food? I’ve been hearing about the benefits and just bought a new Weber kettle... ...but I ain’t a-doin’it whilst nekkid-the neighbors would be calling law enforcement-in a heartbeat!
(Cook naked because turmeric stains don’t come out)
Carefully where you scratch too. It’ll leave a mark.
I occasionally put chopped raw oysters in my homemade kimchi.
They add to the cabbage in a way fish sauce and fermented brine shrimp can’t.
Good stuff!
Invite them over. They wont give a wit after tasting. Works perfectly with both.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsANI-dOlcQ Sosaties will make you cry. When you even try this recipe you will cry tears of joy.
Snuffy is out naked again on his porch grilling. Honey call his wife. Make sure we have an invite.
Give them a try and then ask me for my recipe. It is better by far. Sherry soak, Pork Jowl, etc...
The famous Tabasco pepper sauce seems to be the favorite condiment for James Bond villains eating oysters. In the The Man With The Golden Gun, Francisco Scaramanga (Christopher Lee) is enjoying a silver bucket full of oysters on ice with lemon wedges, washing them down with a Black Velvet, a cocktail made from stout beer (often Guinness) and champagne.
I've read that sunlight fades turmeric stains, and I've tried advice to wash something normally and then place it in sunlight, such as on a clothesline. In my limited experience, at least, the advice seems to have worked--after a day outside, the stain always disappeared.
Me and my family are non violent....
I’ll bet the fresh lemon juice we use on Oysters in Florida does the same...
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