[Mrs. Don-o]

"The indulgences, the wearing of the scapulars, miraculous medals, the prayers to "Mary", etc,....all show a lack of faith in the complete forgiveness Christ..

That is exactly and precisely false. These prayers and devotions are ONLY for souls who are already forgiven and saved. It has nothing to do with "getting" forgiveness for sins.

I'm surprised you got that wrong. It's basic.

Write all you want about your own beliefs, but please refrain from telling untruths about mine.

And if you want to reject Tradition, you'll have to take that up with St. Paul.

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[metmom]

And if you want to reject Tradition, you'll have to take that up with St. Paul.

And just what are those traditions that were taught by Paul that were not included in Scripture?

How do you know for sure that Paul taught them and not someone else?

How do you know for sure that they were passed down faithfully without corruption?

Why were they never written down in the first place if they were so important?

Please provide links for verification purposes.

[Elsie]

... the prayers to "Mary", ...

 

 These prayers and devotions are ONLY for souls who are already forgiven and saved.

 

 

Izzat so??

 

 

 26. "Gens quæ non servierit illi, peribit; gentes destitutæ tantæ Matris auxilio, destituuntur auxilio Filii et totius curi’‘ coelestis."— De Laud. B. M. I. 4.

Cardinal Hugo http://fatima.org/crusader/cr38/cr38pg3.asp 

 

Translation:  "that those who do not serve Mary will not be saved; for those who are deprived of the help of this great Mother are also deprived of that of Her Son and of the whole court of heaven."

[HarleyD]

Write all you want about your own beliefs, but please refrain from telling untruths about mine.

I did not write untruths about your beliefs. I simply stated what is stated out on the Catholic website, New Advent. But Catholics tend to get a bit testy when their own conflicting doctrine is quoted to them.

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