Posted on 06/04/2018 1:10:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
But to be blunt, that isnt the world’s problem.
Either make it work or suck it up.
You see right there you go off the rails. Legal immigration has been hurting Americans and lowering wages for decades. Same with import dumping and no tariff. Look a the H-1b visa program. This is why IMO co called libertarians are dangerous and need to be fought tooth and nail.
I go off the rails? You missed my point and conflate your view of what libertarians hold, a position that I carefully disagreed with, with what I hold.
We are, I think, in agreement on this one.
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Sorry I didn’t have time to read your whole past. I should have waited to respond. O the joys of Freeping and working at the same time. So I have finished with it and I agree with it. But I am confused: are you saying that libertarians, that believe in “free trade” and open immigration, are somehow conservatives too?
No I am not. This is the problem with labels rather than actual positions. There are conservatives whose view is that the power of the state should be used to enforce "conservative" social values rather than leftist social values. Classic liberals believe that the state should just stay out of the lawful business of its lawful citizens and define their lawful business rather broadly.
What I am arguing is that the attempt to pin the free and open immigration plank on all self-described libertarians is wrong. Classic liberal liberatrians take nations, citizenship and the rights that go with it seriously. Most libertarians believe in defending borders and national sovereignty against all incursions, not just armed incursions.
For instance I would argue that the American social contract is our Constitution and the British common law that underlies that constitution. Individual liberty is not consistent with the open immigration of 100,000,000 people whose avowed purpose is to live at peace under our laws until such time as they can vote in Sharia law. Any libertarian who signs up for that is going to meet his just Darwinian fate.
I know quite few libertarians, and they all couldn't care less about illegal or legal immigration for that matter. Rush Limbaugh, what I consider the quintessential Libertarian parading as a conservative, pays lip service to the border and immigration but legal immigration is not his his thing. He has NEVER mentioned H-1b visa abuse on his show that I know of for example. He's been carrying the water for the globalist free traders for decades. There are other tell issues that Rush ignores.
“You bleed the same on duty no matter how you live your private life.”
Utterly irrelevant. You’ve been in CA too long.
Faggotry has morphed from the vice that dare not speak its name to the vice that won’t shut up. Same-sex attraction disorder is a serious illness. It can’t be compartmentalized. It always spills over into other areas. There is no place in the military for anyone who suffers from SSAD. Or in any other area of life, for that matter.
“Conservatives have a different view. Your values and how you live them, is your business.”
That is not a conservative view. That is a libertarian-left position. A conservative view discerns good from evil, healthy from depraved, right from wrong.
Fudge-packing is evil. It is depraved. It is wrong.
Soldiers live in barracks, and other tight quarters - not in bedrooms. In spite of strong proscriptions against sexual deviancy in the military, homos will eventually act on their impulses anyway, which is bad for troop morale.
Rules of conduct in the military aren't arbitrary. They arose from centuries of war fighting experience, and most are designed to save lives and to maintain a better fighting force than our enemies.
You are correct in all particulars, but I am still angry with Normal Americans.
Normal Americans should have figured this out in the 1980s. I want to call them a name, but I just can’t come up with anything that both lauds them for being Normal and chides them for being late to the party.
“Her entire popular vote margin came in California.”
Please remember voter fraud. If valid votes only were counted, Trump would win by several million.
Accepting their figures is endorsing their crimes.
I don't believe either one of those claims.
Liberals appear to be more numerous and more powerful than they really are, because they control so many of our key institutions. They're also experts at vote fraud.
If they're as numerous as you suggest, they shouldn't have lost over 1,400 state and federal elections since 2010.
We need to confront that nonsense, hard, and raise the cost of liberal virtue signaling high enough that they will think twice before trying it.
Now that we can do, and the weapon is ridicule, because political correctness has become self-parody and its practitioners have become jokes from being humorless. The roles of the 70's have become reversed, and the mighty Counterculture is now the dull, smothering, totalitarian Establishment, just as some of us predicted lo those many years ago. They're Andropov-style enforcers trying to crush samizdat, and it isn't going to work.
It could get bloody, though, or more properly bloodier than now, because people who have seized power tend not to want to relinquish it. Embrace the struggle. You might as well, else it embraces you.
The military is supposed to set an example for society
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Doesnt anyone think its strange to have these Planned Parenthood genital sniffers in our schools 24/7 K-12?
Their only function is (A) to condition young women to tolerate the harvey weinstein's of the world,
(B) to condition young boys to be fodder for pedophiles, (C) to make sure youngsters are ready for sex, without the
"punishment" of (horrors) having a baby.
PP's goal is to outfit every youngster with birth control.....same as prostitutes.
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