Posted on 06/02/2018 8:16:12 AM PDT by jazusamo
House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy said Saturday that President Trump should submit any eventual deal with North Korea to the Senate for approval as a treaty, saying lawmakers should have a full say on the matter.
The California Republican said President Obama bungled the Iran nuclear deal negotiations by not treating them a treaty but instead as an executive agreement. That made it easy for Mr. Trump to revoke U.S. participation in the deal earlier this year.
Mr. McCarthy told MSNBC’s Hugh Hewitt the treaty route is a way of not only making the deal lasting, but also of countering those who argue Mr. Trump’s tear-up of the Iran deal makes other countries uncertain of negotiating with the U.S.
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IIRC Obama had help, republican senator Corker was instrumental in subverting the constitution for Obama’s Iran “deal”.And never forget the self-proclaimed "constitutional conservative" Ted Cruz signed that disaster.
We Dodged a bullet by not electing that clown. He should also NEVER be considered for SCOTUS because of that.
I don’t know about McCarthy. He sounds like he’s peeved that Trump nixed the Iran fiasco. I think it has been Trump’s intention to make it a treaty if it’s a worthwhile deal, and if the R smooshes and the D spoilers don’t tie it up and never pass it. Are you listening, McConnell? But it should go through the senate, not JUST to make it permanent. Thank God the Iran fiasco wasn’t “permanent”.
The right thing to do
I’m thinking the Senate knows it will happen and they have to support any deal made by Trump. They’ll make a few minor alterations claiming to fix Trump’s flawed deal. That way they can divert credit from Trump onto themselves. The RINOs are just as slimy as the DEMs in hating any of his accomplishments.
“I fear McCarthy is up to friend Ryan’s Never Trumper tricks to limit Trump’s authority.”
Yes, and to try and share credit. I think it’s important the public sees these victories and accomplishments as a result of the Trump doctrine:
1) putting America’s interests first.
2) negotiating from a position of strength.
3) walking away from deals that don’t conform to 1) and 2).
It’s not about ego or glorification of Donald Trump, it’s about learning the lessons of history. Trump needs to get the credit so that the American public can clearly see that it was integrity, common sense, survival instincts and a respect for Liberty that won out, not compromise, apology, equivocation, appeasement, coercion or blackmail.
Sharing his victories with congress is sure to blur the issues - that is why you will always see Trump take personal credit - it’s not his ego, as some think - it’s for clarity: decisions that come out of a committee always send mixed messages and we don’t need that right now.
Of course, we should follow the Constitution; however, my question remains.
I agree. I am sick of these Presidential “deals”. Whatever is negotiated needs to be ratified by Congress so it survives the next liberal President.
In fact — to the extent possible — Trump needs to get as much of his agenda as possible embedded into the laws and the deep state so it survives him.
“The contempt for DJT is deep and wide, national benefit be damned.”
To vote no on a good treaty with Norklandia would be personal political suicide.
Especially since it is certain the Dims could not get 34 no votes.
It passes with 98+ votes.
The Korean war was never declared by Congress. We responded to pleas from the South to stop the Norks from invading. It was a defensive effort. What needs to be "ended" is between the Koreans.
I agree time to stop calling treaties something else.
Now Tump could call it an agreement between SK and NK and Japan, that’s ok with me.
But somehow the US will give something to NK, food or whatever. That would make it a treaty for me.
He {the President} shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.....
In Article I it gives Congress the power to declare war, but says nothing about ending war and making treaties signifying same.
Just like Obama did for the Iran nuclear deal
I wonder if McCarthy remembers, if he is old enough, how many rounds of ‘talks’ circulated before anything was signed with the ending of The Vietnam War.
re; size of the room, size of the table, location, etc. all were ‘negotiated’, before anything was signed.
Giving Congress ANYTHING, at this point, would just make the whole a multi-year “clusterbuck” for the “never-Trumpers”.
I would not be surprised if there were military coup in NK during the summit. I would imagine there are large and powerful factions inside the NK government who loathe the whole idea.
Agreed, I can already picture Schumer and Pelosi seeking out cameras to inform the voters it’s a terrible idea because President Trump is in office.
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LOL! I love your irony. Not only is submission to the Senate for approval the constitutionally mandated, right thing to do, it’s also politically brilliant because it will force the DemonShits to vote for one of the best treaties in history or go on record as Enemies of World Peace. Once they’ve voted for it, they’ll be stuck with endorsing our PRESIDENT Trump’s foreign policy brilliance. Then let them try, just try, to win the midterms.
Right On!
“some parts are living and subject to our interpretation of what they said and some parts are dead and can be ignored”
No. Absolutely not.
“To hang only the Republicans who collaborated on this treason would require over a mile of rope.”
For future reference, when the hanging actually begins, you don’t have to hang them ALL at the same time. This allows for reusing the same rope many times. Why waste perfectly good, new rope for the traitors? In fact, if the rope breaks a few times in the process and requires a second or third hanging to finish the job, it will eventually get done. Be practical.
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