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'It's only a beer': the unwritten contracts between men and women
The Guardian ^ | 29 May 2018 | Kira Smith

Posted on 05/29/2018 5:46:43 AM PDT by Cronos

Tbowling alley in my small town in central Pennsylvania. An older man bought me a beer and talked to me while he shot pool. Smoking and drinking in that grungy bowling-alley bar in the seediest part of town, I felt cosmopolitan and mature. I was oblivious to the transaction taking place: by drinking his beer, I was entering into an implicit and unwritten contract in which I was expected to fulfill a sexual obligation. One of my more astute and experienced friends told the man that I had a boyfriend and had no intention of being intimate with him. He became irate and threw a lit cigarette into my hair as I left the bar. I went home scared and confused as to why my acceptance of a beer and friendly conversation had gotten me into a terrifying mess.

What I learned that day is that attention from unfamiliar men is implicitly transactional, and a failure to pay the price can result in some traumatic consequence. I admit that on this point, I have been proven wrong repeatedly over time. But I have also had enough disturbing experiences that every male stranger is suspect. It’s always possible that I am going to be expected to acknowledge a tacit, unwritten contract and obey its terms and conditions. It’s a contract only a man can create, and sometimes it feels like only a man can break it. Women are expected to sign on the dotted line.. ...

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To: Cronos

The behavior began in the late 80’s in my experience. They were and perhaps still are really brazen about it, I don’t know, I found better things to do with my time and money about fifteen years ago. If the guy they’ve just hit up for what was usually a very expensive frou-frou drink involving expensive liqueurs even tries to make conversation or asks them to dance, they’re very dismissive, even cruel.

So much of modern feminism is built upon condemnation of behaviors from their grandparents’ generation or complete myth to begin with.


21 posted on 05/29/2018 6:05:20 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Cronos

If I have to *buy* something for a woman to get her to like me - sex, or not - then the whole underpinning of any “relationship” is tainted from the beginning.

I played in bands, in bars, for years...and watching the crown from the bandstand/stage, can teach you an awful lot.

It’s an age-old game, but perverts who think the price of a drink is worth a roll in the hay, aren’t the brightest blades in the drawer to begin with.

Most of these women are just hustling free drinks...that’s all. They know by flaunting natures charms they can go out and party all night long, and never spend a nickel. These were once referred to as “golddiggers”.


22 posted on 05/29/2018 6:06:45 AM PDT by FrankR (If it wasn't for stupid ideas, the left would have no ideas at all.)
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To: Cronos

I read the meandering article and the woman didn’t make a single point.

Not one.

How is it possible to write 1500 words an not make a point?


23 posted on 05/29/2018 6:07:27 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Cronos

Can I buy a woman a glass of wine?


24 posted on 05/29/2018 6:08:20 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Mariner
It's how she feels you neanderthal. Now, buy her a drink with no expectations whatsoever. It's her due.
25 posted on 05/29/2018 6:09:05 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Cronos

I’ll come right out and say it. Unless this was an explicit “hook-up” bar, and no, I’m NOT talking about a “singles bar,” I’ll say that the writer is lying.

I’m sure that there are men that will treat women like that, but in most bars that I frequented in my past, the guy would have been pounded to a pulp by the bar regulars.

It reads like a bad “Lifetime” movie script.

Mark


26 posted on 05/29/2018 6:10:41 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: joesbucks
So it was cool for "Bob" to look and be attracted to the view but "Joe" was a pervy letch if he did. I learned a lot by that conversation.

Women are hypergamous, wanting the highest-quality guy they can get. When a guy shows interest, he is implicitly communicating that he thinks HE is the best she can get. She will thus get very insulted if she disagrees.

Saturday Night Live (back when they were funny) had a skit on this: Sexual Harassment And You

27 posted on 05/29/2018 6:11:09 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

LOL

I got slapped once for saying something like that.


28 posted on 05/29/2018 6:11:21 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: joesbucks

I once got a note from HR because I DIDN’T comment on a woman who had just received breast enhancements.

The HR lady and I got a rather good laugh out of it.


29 posted on 05/29/2018 6:12:51 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: thoughtomator

“When was the last time another guy, previously unknown to you, bought you a beer?”

Happens all the time in private clubs, about every time you go.


30 posted on 05/29/2018 6:13:19 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Liberals can kiss my bitter clingers!)
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To: Pollster1
There is an unwritten contract, but that is not what I thought it said. Going back many decades to when I was single: by accepting a drink, the woman who accepted was entering into an implicit contract to engage in social conversation, with at least some potential for a date. Even a full date does not carry an obligation to have sex, or even a goodnight kiss. Any man who demands more is a pig.

On the flip side, a woman who accepts a drink is communicating that she is at least open to having sex, if she decides the man is interesting enough. A woman who accepts a drink, or a date, having decided beforehand that nothing will happen, just because she wants the man to buy her stuff, is being dishonest.

31 posted on 05/29/2018 6:15:04 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: redgolum

Hey, turn the transactional expectations around, right? Isn’t that the game?


32 posted on 05/29/2018 6:15:41 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Mariner
How is it possible to write 1500 words an not make a point?

Hah, you should have seen me in my college days...

33 posted on 05/29/2018 6:16:35 AM PDT by onona (Hope, Faith, Love)
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To: FrankR
Working backstage as a techie in clubs is an eye opener. Talk about being the invisible man ...

I was surprised how many clubs hire gals whose job is to talk guys into buying expensive drinks. I expected it at certain clubs but it seems to be everywhere. They get a cut of the receipts but didn't have to pay to get entrance.

One of my friends has a daughter that works for a high end liquor company. Both the daughter and her husband get hired to sell the high end liquor. I get that girls can sell booze but was mildly surprised that he can rack up big sales at a lot of clubs.

Of course they get a 1099 at the end of the year ...

34 posted on 05/29/2018 6:19:21 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Cronos
He became irate and threw a lit cigarette into my hair as I left the bar.

Yeah. Bet that never happened.

35 posted on 05/29/2018 6:19:31 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’d settle fora look at her boobies.


36 posted on 05/29/2018 6:20:23 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

The typical woman out talks the typical man 50 words to 1.

And they rarely say anything. They just enjoy the experience of talking.

Put 3 of them in a room together they’ll all talk at the same time, for hours on end, again saying nothing.


37 posted on 05/29/2018 6:21:00 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Cronos

bkmk


38 posted on 05/29/2018 6:21:53 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine. #Free Tommy)
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To: Cronos

Feminist narrative - all men are predators.

Leftist thug author.

Leftist thug paper.


39 posted on 05/29/2018 6:22:36 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Beagle8U

Back in my youth I used to go out to bars all the time - 4, 5 nights a week for a stretch.

I have never been bought a beer by a guy I didn’t know EXCEPT in the context of him buying beers for a group of people where I was one of them.

I would find it exceedingly strange and an extraordinary circumstance to have another man buy a beer for me.


40 posted on 05/29/2018 6:22:52 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 0)
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