That's what the launcher looks like.
Posted on 05/24/2018 6:13:14 AM PDT by BBell
A Dutch-led international criminal investigation has concluded that the Buk missile that shot down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over Ukraine in 2014 came from Russia's 53rd Antiaircraft Missile Brigade.
The Joint Investigative Team (JIT), comprising authorities from Australia, Belgium, Malaysia, the Netherlands, and Ukraine, made the announcement at a press conference on May 24 in Utrecht, the Netherlands.
MH17 was shot down over the conflict zone in Ukraine's Donetsk region on July 17, 2014, killing all 298 people on board.
The JIT "has come to the conclusion that the Buk-TELAR that shot down MH17 came from the 53rd Antiaircraft Missile Brigade based in Kursk in Russia," top Dutch investigator Wilbert Paulissen said. "The 53rd Brigade is part of Russia's armed forces."
Bellingcat, a British-based team of open-source researchers investigating the crash, had already identified the 53rd Antiaircraft Missile Brigade as being the likely source of the missile that investigators say brought down the jet.
Russia denies interfering in Ukraine's internal affairs, despite compelling evidence that Moscow has provided military, economic, and political support to separatists fighting against Kyiv. Russia and the separatists deny shooting down MH17 and have offered several other theories to explain the incident, all of which have been rejected by investigators.
The JIT determined in 2016 that MH17 was shot down from separatist-held territory in the Donetsk region by a Buk antiaircraft system provided by the Russian military. The JIT report says the Buk entered Ukraine near Krasnodon and was spirited back into Russia immediately after the airliner was shot down.
On May 25, Bellingcat is to hold a press conference in The Hague for the launch of a new report on the probe.
The Bellingcat investigation, conducted jointly with the independent Russian website The Insider, said in December it had identified a senior Russian general as a figure of interest in the downing of the airliner.
The Bellingcat investigative group -- which uses sophisticated digital techniques to analyze open-source audio and visual data -- alleged that a man identified on intercepted communications as Delfin (Dolphin) is retired Russian Colonel General Nikolai Tkachyov, who is currently serving as the chief inspector of Russia's Central Military District.
Tkachyov denied that he was Delfin or that he was in eastern Ukraine in 2014.
Shouldn’t the U.N. at least punish the Russians, maybe take them off the cocktail party list for a few weeks?
“Shouldn’t the U.N. at least punish the Russians, maybe take them off the cocktail party list for a few weeks?”
Perhaps the Russians know the plane’s black box is sitting in a UN locker.*
*1994-2004 Rwanda Incident
question not answered is why would Putin authorize this?
the fact that the Col. Gen is still serving in the Russian Army seems to indicate the act had official sanction from the Kremlin.
> The Bellingcat investigation
Deep State intelligence fraud/propaganda manufacturer.
Look into this organization and you’ll quickly realize that there’s no way it would be treated as remotely credible under normal circumstances.
They got their start pushing the false chemical attack accusations against Syria in 2011.
> In 2015, Higgins partnered with the Atlantic Council
Any woke person won’t need any more data than this to know “Bellingcat” is an intel operation, likely MI6.
It’s propaganda drama.
> There were threads here on FR with pictures of the mobile AA battery with one missile gone - so there’s no question the Russians did it.
That’s a ridiculous assertion. A photo of a mobile AA battery down a missile does not mean that that specific AA battery was used at that specific time to take out that specific target.
It is at this point when we have to discuss the question of motive. There was no motive whatsoever for the Russians to shoot down that plane.
There was plenty of motive on the part of those who have been on an anti-Russian jihad ever since Hillary Clinton’s minions overthrew the legitimate government of Ukraine, to frame the Russians for it. Framing others is the M.O. of Western intelligence agencies as we have seen in case after case after case - they even tried to frame Trump, so there is no reasonable way to deny that a frame-up job is the most plausible motive for the shoot-down.
Putin had live AA units in Crimea
The Russians think like you, that everyone is out to get them
Not hard to see some paranoid idiot firing off the missile
BTW please explain how Putin knew the plane had been shot down, before anyone else in the world knew
Russians did it, you know, I know, everyone knows
> The Russians think like you, that everyone is out to get them
An objective examination of their experience post-USSR cannot help but to support that conclusion.
“You know I know” is not an argument, it’s an admission that you haven’t thought this through well enough to have your opinion withstand a critical examination.
What you and I actually know is that the lack of genuine motive on the part of the Russians points to a false flag incident engineered by the same folks who engineered the coup in Ukraine.
Same as with the Skirpal case, same as with the various false accusations against Syria... and same as the frame-up job against Trump.
Gosh, what a surprise, it was the Russians. Thanks BBell.
That's what the launcher looks like.
That can be used to explain why American navy shot down the Iranian civil aircraft during the Iran-Iraq War.
Russian separatists had previously shot down a Ukrainian Ilyushin Il-76 and a Ukrainian Antonov An-26 using a Buk system. Russian media even boasted of it. When the civilian airplane(MH17) was shot down Colonel Igor Strelkov (aka Igor Girkin), within 30 minutes took credit for the shooting down of an aircraft adding: “We warned them—don’t fly ‘in our sky.’”
There is no doubt the russian separatists downed MH17.
There a source for those claims that isn’t a Deep State propaganda outlet? When I look them up, they all trace to the usual suspects.
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