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The only solution is to renegotiate pensions. Maybe it will have to be done when the state declares bankruptcy.
1 posted on 05/14/2018 11:28:59 AM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

Just as the mortgage tax deduction raised the value of real estate, this tax increase will lower the value of real estate.

They are siphoning off a big chunk of the population’s equity in their homes, and hoping that voters never realize that their pockets have been picked.


2 posted on 05/14/2018 11:34:52 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: doug from upland

Lets impose a tax on all property owners to bail out the f***ed up govt pensions because they payout 80-100% of salary at retirement.


3 posted on 05/14/2018 11:34:55 AM PDT by wardamneagle
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To: doug from upland

Virginia does something similar. They just call it “Personal Property Tax” and proceed to molest their citizens.


4 posted on 05/14/2018 11:35:50 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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If I remember correctly Illinois made the mistake of making the state pensions part of their State Constitution and every attempt in court has thus been lost when trying to adjust them in any way.

If I’m correct in that memory the only way they can address it would be through a constitutional modification.

https://will.illinois.edu/legalissuesinthenews/program/illinois-pension-system-and-changing-the-states-constitution

Section 5 here:
http://www.ilga.gov/commission/lrb/con13.htm


5 posted on 05/14/2018 11:45:41 AM PDT by reed13k
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The only solution is to renegotiate pensions. Maybe it will have to be done when the state declares bankruptcy.

Odd... I was thinking of lamp posts and rope.

6 posted on 05/14/2018 11:45:42 AM PDT by Politically Correct (A member of the rabble in good standing)
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Unless the state constitution prohibits it, and some do.

Only defense I can think of, and I hate to say it, is buy the least expensive home you can stand to live in if you’re fortunate to have a choice.


7 posted on 05/14/2018 11:46:38 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: doug from upland
Renegotiate or default on the out-of-control public sector pensions and get rid of the democRATS running the show.

Problem solved.

8 posted on 05/14/2018 11:48:05 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: doug from upland

Your home is an ATM for city/state government so every town clerk, road worker & paper-pusher become millionaires. The town manager where I live makes almost 300k. His pension will be 80% of that figure.


9 posted on 05/14/2018 11:48:30 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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“Homeowners with houses worth $250,000 would pay an additional $2,500 per year in property taxes, those with homes worth $500,000 would pay an additional $5,000, and those with homes worth $1 million would pay an additional $10,000.”

So, if your house is worth $250,000, and never went up in price, it will cost you an extra $75,000 to fund someone else’s pension. That sounds really fair....

10 posted on 05/14/2018 11:49:39 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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The Pensions are un-renegotiable. They are wholly irrevocable. They are etched into constitutional stone.

Even Math doesn’t stand a chance. They will be paid. By Taxpayers.


12 posted on 05/14/2018 11:50:48 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (A bad peace is better than a good war.)
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The only solution is to renegotiate pensions. Maybe it will have to be done when the state declares bankruptcy.

Yes, given the corrupt pols and union bosses are long gone so suing them for damages won't happen.

13 posted on 05/14/2018 11:51:31 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Last one to leave Illinois turn out the lights.


16 posted on 05/14/2018 11:54:58 AM PDT by beethovenfan (I always try to maximize my carbon footprint.)
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Illinois is a very good example as to why our forefathers came up with the electoral college.


18 posted on 05/14/2018 11:55:40 AM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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Where the f*ck are the people supposed to get the money from? We don’t have unlimited money, you penis inhalers. We don’t have it. Go get f*cked by a rhino.


21 posted on 05/14/2018 11:58:51 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Liberalism is the transformation of mankind into cattle. -Nietzche)
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The only solution is to renegotiate pensions.
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You misspelled ‘eliminate’, maybe is was supposed to be ‘obliterate’.


22 posted on 05/14/2018 12:00:18 PM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: doug from upland

I am reminded of the legendary bank robber who, when asked why he robbed banks, had the simple reply of; “That is where the money is!” In this case, property is non-movable and taxable, thus it is where the money is! Too late to dig up the (mostly) Dem politicos who got the votes and won the elections by mortgaging the future selling bonds to pay that day’s ‘bribe!’


24 posted on 05/14/2018 12:06:48 PM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: doug from upland

Why they prohibit firearms.


26 posted on 05/14/2018 12:09:05 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (I speak hyperbolically)
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To: doug from upland

Geeez! I wonder if the commie Mexican Legislature in California will pick up on this theft!


27 posted on 05/14/2018 12:11:24 PM PDT by notaliberal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle,)
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To: doug from upland

How about making these state gods work free to pay for it?


28 posted on 05/14/2018 12:13:15 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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In the early 1990s, California and other states, started imposing their income tax on NONRESIDENTS who were receiving retirement income earned from when they were in-state residents. This was stopped in 1995 when the US Congress passed Public Law 104-95 that made such taxation illegal. I wonder if this would be reversed now as any law can be overturned by a new law.
29 posted on 05/14/2018 12:20:23 PM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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