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I believe it is pretty well accepted that John did give up our secret flight plans/routes of air attack to the NVC. This resulted in our air assets being compromised. I couldn’t tell you what the full impact of that was. There was an impact, but I don’t know how many planes it cost us, or how much it impacted our ability to hit important targets after that.

John did make propaganda recordings for the NVC. I don’t know how many.

I’m not sure if John was the only one who did. I don’t know what the military code of conduct is on this.

As much as I don’t like him making propaganda spots, I’m not sure if the military absolutely forbids our men from doing things like that to avoid terrible bouts of torture. It may be allowed do to the understanding that inhumane torture against Geneva Convention rules would be nearly impossible to endure.

I’ve tried to stay away from criticizing McCain’s war record. I’m not up on all the codes and exactly what McCain is charged with by his fellow POWs.

I’d rather allow someone who really knows their “stuff” to talk about this any further.

This is also one area where I welcome others with alternate opinions to weigh in.

I detest McCain, but as a general rule I support our POWs as much as I possibly can, ideologically. I do have questions if he is worthy of support, but I’m not qualified to say.

I try to be fair to John when it comes to his POW experience. If he acted improperly, I want it verified, explained fully, and for him to take his lumps if he deserves them.

Non-disclosure agreement...... NDA about the 2-3 weeks of SERE training. Nothing super secret squirrel about it except the skills and data does save lives thus you must honor that NDA for the lives of those in harms way today.

That said ..... evolution of the information the Vietnam era POW’s helped form the training DOD gives today. Guessing Vietnam POW weren’t given that level or quality of training we got. They were trained with POW’s experiences from WWII / Korea pretty much . Captured , afraid, level of pain and the violence administered to arrive at the level of pain ..... every body breaks. Just try and not talk for at least 48 hours so OPLAN’s , Codes, SOP etcetera can be changed.

As much as I despise McCain can’t blame him for “Songbird” mode. Psychologically the training doesn’t get too real world as I knew my return plane ticket said 3 weeks. The real POW’s had no idea how long they’re real world ass whuppin would be......

But this polidiot Senator Juan has used up any respect due his service by his domestic enemy title as a polidiot. My opinion experience.

Hope yer well WD.