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1 posted on 04/30/2018 10:06:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Nashville, TN. Hey!! Paging Nashville Tennessee! Transit vote is tomorrow! Read this! Get a clue!!


2 posted on 04/30/2018 10:09:33 AM PDT by murrie (Mark Levin: Prosecuting stupidity nightly.)
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I could see two paths being able to financially make it and turn a profit. New York to Washington. New York to Chicago. Beyond them, there’s zero chance that any of these will ever pay back what it costs to build and run it.


4 posted on 04/30/2018 10:11:43 AM PDT by pepsionice
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The next year, the Obama administration’s stimulus bill allocated money for it and several other high-speed lines.

That should serve as our FINAL LESSON on Federal government "stimulus bills". Not a penny of that got to its intended purpose. It all disappeared into the pockets of Democrat apparatchiks.


5 posted on 04/30/2018 10:12:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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But, but...it’s shiny! And, global warming!


6 posted on 04/30/2018 10:12:53 AM PDT by moovova
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“As for the “high speed” aspect of the train, the Authority now admits that the two-hour-and-40-minute travel time that helped sell the initial bonding of the train in 2008 will now slip to, at best, three hours and 30 minutes. Travel time on some runs will be up to five hours.”

Well, currently, Amtrak from Oakland to Downtown Los Angeles is about 12 hours, but if you take Amtrak’s “bus bridge,” it’s only 6 or 7. So here you have a subsidized railroad offering “bus service” to cut a trip’s time in half. But the current section of CA’s “high-speed rail” really does make sense, because our illegal Mexican farm workers will eventually be able to “speed up and down the Central Valley” moving from crop to crop to pick them!


7 posted on 04/30/2018 10:14:37 AM PDT by vette6387
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Even in China, where labor costs are low and land is seized at will, HSR is a wasteful political boondoggle:


https://www.intheblack.com/articles/2015/09/01/bullet-trains-and-the-economics-of-high-speed-railways
A 2014 World Bank paper indicates China’s HSR traffic grew from 128 million trips in 2008 to 672 million trips in 2013. By now, the system has provided well over 3 billion trips. China’s network has “promising initial traffic”, the World Bank states, but it has reserved judgment about whether China’s HSR ultimately makes social and financial sense.

Daniel Albalate, a professor in the department of economic policy at the University of Barcelona and co-author of The Economics and Politics of High Speed Rail (Lexington Books, Lanham, MD, 2013), acknowledges that the HSR network is increasing at an impressive rate in China. He also notes its accessibility issues. There is a pronounced difference in fares: HSR fares usually cost between seven and 10 cents per kilometre per person in China, compared to two or three cents for traditional intercity rail.

“HSR prices are much higher than prior prices of railway services and we know that the arrival of HSR is usually linked to the dismantling of conventional lines,” Albalate argues. “Those users that today are not willing to pay the new price are now worse off travelling by bus.”


9 posted on 04/30/2018 10:18:22 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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Assemblyman Jim Patterson, a train critic who represents Fresno, promptly labeled it a “going-out-of-business plan.”

She's dead, Jim.

11 posted on 04/30/2018 10:19:49 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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But the Democrat crooks get rich.


14 posted on 04/30/2018 10:21:15 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Think of the money that could be used to help the illegal alien invasion instead!!


16 posted on 04/30/2018 10:31:13 AM PDT by chief lee runamok
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Fleets of pay-per-use self-driving cars will decimate what is left of the passenger train industry.


17 posted on 04/30/2018 10:31:36 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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California is going to need that money for all the Hondurans arriving.


18 posted on 04/30/2018 10:33:25 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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Slow Death of the Train to Nowhere

Not exactly nowhere, but close.
The HSR always seems to pass through the state capital?

Here in Illinois, they have been clamoring For Chiraq to Springfield HSR.
No money to maintain local roads or public transportation, but HSR!!!


19 posted on 04/30/2018 10:35:13 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (This Space for Rent)
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I don’t remember the exact original figure now, but I could have sworn it was much less than $32 billion dollars when the voters were asked to approve this idiotic plan. For some reason $11 billion comes to mind.

They thought they’d sucker the populace to go for it, then reveal the true cost later on.

I was having none of it, but folks once again suckered for a Leftist pack of lies.


20 posted on 04/30/2018 10:40:20 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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hey Moonbeam - shut it down and use the money for something the people want.


21 posted on 04/30/2018 10:45:10 AM PDT by beethovenfan (I always try to maximize my carbon footprint.)
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backers believed that if they built the Central Valley segment, the sunken costs would convince state legislators to find money for the remaining segments.

Yeah, sunken costs. Well, maybe they can turn it into a super-collider instead.
23 posted on 04/30/2018 11:12:26 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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Wonder if the Central Valley segment under construction is adjacent to land owned by Mr. Diane Feinstein?


24 posted on 04/30/2018 11:15:18 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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Bakersfield to San Jose starting work in 2029! Isn’t that most of the route?


25 posted on 04/30/2018 11:22:50 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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HSR works well in highly populated Europe, China and Japan where ridership and moderate distances between cities makes it work.

We don’t have that kind of configuration in the US and HSR is a huge waste of money. Long distance travel needs are better served by air.

Any distance more than two hours travel time by car, you’ll be taking a plane anyway to get there. The train is old-fashioned Nineteenth Century technology and even liberals can’t make it go faster.


29 posted on 04/30/2018 12:38:42 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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What can we do so it will die faster??? Hire a Kennedy to transport it? Have the train work for a Clinton?


35 posted on 04/30/2018 1:29:59 PM PDT by Yaelle
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