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One Man’s Ideas For ‘Gun Control That Works’
The Truth About Guns ^ | 04/28/18 | Dan Zimmerman

Posted on 04/28/2018 12:11:13 PM PDT by Simon Green

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“2) “Possession” is a legal concept from the drug war that implies that a person has a contraband item “on or about one’s person,” or has “control” over the item, perhaps by having it in a motor vehicle or in a home.
Because both of these things—“possession” and “semi-automatic weapons”—are easy to define, they’re easy to regulate.”

I can’t believe this buffoon actually cites the “drug war” to promote his licensing scheme (which is the worst camel nose to ever get under a tent; why would we barter away our rights in exchange for not infringing our rights?).

Earth to Idiot: the “drug war” is a comprehensive failure. The US is awash with meth, synthetic and natural marijuana, “bath salts”, etc., 116 people are DYING every day from opioid abuse, billions of dollars are sent out of the country, millions of Americans are unemployable bums due to drugs and others criminals who deal in forbidden goods, precisely because bans make them valuable. The “gun violence” in America is fueled by drug trafficking gangs, and addicts committing robbery, identity fraud, etc. to get money for dope.

Does he think that criminal gangs wouldn’t move into any niche where “banned” or restricted licensed possession creates a demand?


21 posted on 04/28/2018 12:32:19 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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>> “Gun Control That Works” <<

Target Practice!
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22 posted on 04/28/2018 12:32:57 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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They already know where all the post-68 guns are.
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23 posted on 04/28/2018 12:34:25 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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Gee, sounds like a good idea to me. Lets try it out first on the First Amendment. A simple common sense plan to prevent religious extremism. If you want to attend a religious service associated with a religion that has engaged in, or whose members were involved in a terror attack in the last 20 years then you need to get a federal license first. That license will be granted after a thorough background check.

Anyone who doesn't get a federal religion license can attend other churches that have not had a follower engage in terror attacks.

Also, if you want to write articles, or advocate, or preach for one of the religions identified as related to terror attacks, then you must also obtain a religion license.

There will be a grace period, of say 3 to 5 years where existing members of religions identified as related to terror attacks can still keep their religious books, and pray in their homes before they must obtain their religion license.

Once we see how it works for religion we can consider how it would work for the second amendment.

24 posted on 04/28/2018 12:35:34 PM PDT by freeandfreezing (Do I really need the /sarc tag?)
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There must be NO laws for possessing, manufacturing, or selling firearms. None. Anything else is an attempt to take them or prevent their lawful use against tyranny.


25 posted on 04/28/2018 12:36:36 PM PDT by CodeToad (The Democrats haven't been this pissed off since the Republicans took their slaves away.)
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To: Chewbarkah
“Possession” is a legal concept from the drug war that implies that a person has a contraband item “on or about one’s person,” or has “control” over the item, perhaps by having it in a motor vehicle or in a home.

Yep, so I presume people will be able to get a license for their kids, neighbors, babysitters, etc.

The author's ideas are beyond stupid.

26 posted on 04/28/2018 12:37:50 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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NO THANK YOU.

First it would make ownership of my existing semi-automatic firearms illegal. Not sure they can retroactively do that without compensating me. A bit gray, but lots of folks would object.

No for the real objection......”...a thorough but reasonable vetting process, ...” I just can't envision representatives from California, New York, New Jersey, Chicago agreeing to any vetting process that would not be extreme or sandbagging things until such a time that they can change the vetting rules and require periodic re-licensing and re-vetting for a punitive cost, say a couple thousand dollars or some impossible insurance requirement.

This will never fly

27 posted on 04/28/2018 12:38:31 PM PDT by Robert357 ( Dan Rather was discharged as "medically unfit" on May 11, 1954.)
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What part od “shall not infringe” do they not get?
If every time they rant both sides give up something all they have to do is keep ranting till they can kill us with no risk.

It is what happens every time. No wonder they no longer teach history, communism omly wins when people are stupid enough to cut their own throats.


28 posted on 04/28/2018 12:39:22 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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"you have the makings of a straightforward, effective system for keeping the most lethal class of weapons out of the hands of bad actors"

I don't think he knows how lethal a man with metal working tools and a little knowledge of chemistry can be... and all without any kind of licensing required.
29 posted on 04/28/2018 12:39:26 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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Here’s my big idea; No background checks. Just redefine who is a “prohibited person.”

A prohibited person is anyone who has a violent or serious conviction, including drug sales. I’m not worried Martha Stewart is gonna come gunning for me. A prohibited person meeting the above goes to fed prison 5 years for being found with a firearm.

People adjudicated mentally deficient go to prison 1 year.

People found armed and drunk or on drugs have firearm(s) impounded for 30 days

If any above are committing a crime while armed, the above will apply in addition to other charges.


30 posted on 04/28/2018 12:40:36 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Simon Green

How about “no”


31 posted on 04/28/2018 12:40:46 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: CodeToad
There must be NO laws for possessing, manufacturing, or selling firearms. None.

But there are, and lots of them. That's not going to change.

Unfortunately.

32 posted on 04/28/2018 12:41:57 PM PDT by Simon Green
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To: Simon Green

Shall not be infringed!


33 posted on 04/28/2018 12:43:01 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Simon Green


ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO REDESIGN THE GAS CAN!
34 posted on 04/28/2018 12:43:06 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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No


35 posted on 04/28/2018 12:43:15 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: chris37

F... off and die.

Second that thought. (Don’t you just love the cutsie spelling Jon instead of John)


36 posted on 04/28/2018 12:44:26 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Simon Green

Such a b-s article.

What part of “shall not infringe” do these rodents not understand.


37 posted on 04/28/2018 12:52:13 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~~Trump 2020~~)
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To: Chewbarkah

That’s my thought exactly. What’s even worse is that people can 3d print either the gun or parts to assemble a gun with.


38 posted on 04/28/2018 12:55:28 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Simon Green

Although he is the one who sounds delusional, he’s basing his idea on the thought that we, the ones who value the Second Amendment, are actually delusional.

Of course we won’t accept anything so stupid


39 posted on 04/28/2018 12:59:50 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Simon Green
Common Sense Journalism reform.

Given the damage fake, fraudulent and deliberately misleading Journalism does to the very fabric of our society, it time for common sense Journalism reform. Bad journalism destroys lives and careers every day in this country. It time to put a stop to it.

We need a federal Journalism license to keep the News Media out of the hands of bad actors and in the hands of responsible Journalists.

40 posted on 04/28/2018 1:01:23 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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