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America Faces One of Three Inevitable Paths: Unrest, Tyranny, or Divorce - Pick One
Townhall.com ^ | April 23, 2018 | Scott Morefield

Posted on 04/23/2018 6:27:44 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: central_va
Oh it’s totally simple. The legislature votes to secede and the governor signs it and boom your state is now a country!

A couple questions:


161 posted on 04/23/2018 2:43:50 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: DuncanWaring; Jack Black; archy; Travis McGee; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX

There is no coexistence with some of the hardcore psychopaths on the Left.

I’m of the opinion that is inevitable as well.

People best get their minds right about it, because even though it’s not something WE want, it is in fact what THEY want.

Except they want it to be painless, and through the use of the law at all levels.

Here’s a hint: It WON’T be painless for them.

Just sayin’, allkindasortahypothetical-like and stuff...


162 posted on 04/23/2018 2:53:33 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Red Badger

Be a little bit more aggressive. Also who says we can’t break states apart!


163 posted on 04/23/2018 2:54:13 PM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: JPJones

All of Nevada North of las Vegas. North California and western Oregon and Washington. North California gives Pacific access.


164 posted on 04/23/2018 2:57:53 PM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: Afterguard

Reporters have to be exmilitary and have to pledge to tell the unbiased truth. They have to rotate and serve with the military overseas no exceptions.


165 posted on 04/23/2018 3:00:50 PM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: The Deplorable Miss Lemon

Allow each county to vote which way they want to go. Redraw the states accordingly.


166 posted on 04/23/2018 3:02:48 PM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: joegoeny; central_va

I am sure an amicable solution can be found but we will need a wall between the two states.


167 posted on 04/23/2018 3:31:00 PM PDT by The Deplorable Miss Lemon (If illegals are here to do the jobs Americans won't do why are so many illegals on welfare?)
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To: papertyger
I don't think the left has much stomach for ACTUAL "mayhem and destruction."

The left can stomach plenty of violence and destruction, as long as they're opposing an unarmed, law-abiding populace. They killed 100 million people during the twentieth century.

I think they'd start out strong in a war with the right, but would soon weaken, due to engagements with a fearsome, unleashed class of patriot warrior.

Still, the carnage would be immense. We're talking sectarian warfare that would be street to street, and house to house. There'd be very few clearly defined battle lines. The horror would be unthinkable.

As you say, though, their resolve would soon crumble.

168 posted on 04/23/2018 4:15:19 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: The Deplorable Miss Lemon

Too much of that going on the past few years. Austin is chock full of California transplants. The problem is that most of them appear to be whacked out libs.


169 posted on 04/23/2018 5:06:50 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Kaslin

Know someone who is considering a divorce?

Give them the book compiled by Lelila Miller of adult children of divorce. Primal Loss is the name of the book.

Powerful, for it describes the harm that divorce did to their families and to them as individuals.

Children are forgotten in divorce cases, because ‘selfish’ spouses think it’s all about them.


170 posted on 04/23/2018 5:11:55 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: DownInFlames

Use the county map and big chunks of blue states are actually red. The blue staters are actually city dwellers. Carve out Chicago and Illinois becomes red, carve out downstate New York and New York becomes red... don’t give them anything just the ground they are standing on.


171 posted on 04/24/2018 3:59:17 AM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: Jack Black
The USA has a national debt of $20 Trillion. What sort of formula will be used to apportion it to the new Nation (former State)?

A one time payment apportioned by population vs entire population of the USA at the time of the secession.

The USA pays SSI retirment benefits to it's citizens, mostly based on the continuing inflow of revenue to the SSI program. Assuming SSI contributions will not be required in the new country, do you expect SSI benefits to continue to be paid by FedGov to citizens living in New Country after the split?

"Assuming SSI contributions will not be required in the new country," which is a false assumption. The new country(formally a state) will now collect payroll taxes and distribute them. That will be in the article of secession. It's up to the people of that state to decide.

US military veterans receive healthcare via the VA. Will New State take on the care of veterans of another countries veterans (USA, that is). If so, for how long. Who will pay military pensions for US Veterans living in New Country?

The USA pays veterans that live all over the world. It would be up to them to decide if they are going to keep paying. As far as current VA benefits, the new country can decide to keep up the VA in their new country or not. My guess is they will. It is up to the people to decide.

Who will be allowed to move to New Country after the split.

I would suggest an open border period of a year to allow the deadbeat liberals to vacate red countries and vice versa. Emigration would be highly recommended.

Who will be considered a citizen of New Country after the split?

Um, the citizens of that former state.

Will it be Jus soli or jus sanguinis, or both. For instance: assuming Wyoming is the state which becomes New County: would being born in Wyoming mean you are a citizen of New Country?

Yes.

How about having two parents born in Wyoming?

Great, they are citizens of the country of Wyoming or whatever name they choose.

Will New Country honor the treaties made between Indian tribes with Fed Gov?

I guess so. Or not.

Who will adjucate conflicts between Indians and New Country?

The President (former Governor) of the new country.

172 posted on 04/24/2018 4:37:09 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Iron Munro

If you look at the bluestaters as Zombies the county map makes more sense. The US should quarantine those blue zones until reeducation facilities can be established, some I’m afraid are too far gone!


173 posted on 04/24/2018 9:13:51 AM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: laconic

Expulsion, like a bit eject the blue counties that are being used as sanctuaries for illegals and tools for massive election fraud. The blue staters don’t get their own country either.


174 posted on 04/24/2018 9:25:54 AM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: OIFVeteran

I disagree with your premise. They are not intermingled. And conservatives and progressives are not similar.


175 posted on 04/24/2018 9:28:08 AM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: Charles Martel

The Redstaters would then set the prices for food water electricity and consumer goods. Transportation from one blue zone to another requires paying tolls. No we are not giving the blues a free ride.


176 posted on 04/24/2018 9:38:22 AM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: central_va

Thanks for answering my questions. And they were pretty good answers, for the most part.


177 posted on 04/24/2018 9:42:07 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: steve86

Again who says that Seattle gets the whole state. Seattle gets expulsed and the remainder stays Washington, a red state.


178 posted on 04/24/2018 9:52:09 AM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: Jack Black

As I see it there is no new country, it is still the good ol USA. The blue counties are expulsed by the US for violating federal law, for sedition and as a threat to the US Constitution. Counties will vote to reaffirm their allegiance to the Constitution and the federal government. Counties that vote against will be expulsed unless of strategic importance. People in the wrong county are given a reasonable amount of time to relocate.


179 posted on 04/24/2018 10:15:31 AM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: jospehm20

Yes and they unfortunately will vote for more of what they left behind.

Liberals should have to live with what they vote for which brings us to “divorce” and our desperate need to rid ourselves of them.


180 posted on 04/24/2018 10:29:43 AM PDT by The Deplorable Miss Lemon (If illegals are here to do the jobs Americans won't do why are so many illegals on welfare?)
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