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DEFAMATION: The Starbucks Manager Accused Of Racism Is Probably About To Be A MILLIONAIRE
Daily Caller ^

Posted on 04/22/2018 9:38:46 AM PDT by Cubs Fan

The former Starbucks manager who called the police on two non-paying black customers earlier this month may have a good case for bringing a defamation suit against the coffee company.

In numerous public statements, Starbucks and its CEO Kevin Johnson have gone out of their way to imply that the the female manager, identified in media reports as Holly Hylton, was acting on subconscious racial motivations when she told the loitering customers to either buy a beverage or get out of her store. Crucially, Starbucks has also strongly implied that, as a factual matter, the manager violated company policy.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: hollyhylton; hylton; kevinjohnson; mediawingofthednc; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; starbucks
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To: Cubs Fan

The LEFT eating their own. Good stuff. Good stuff.

When will the little LEFTIES realize that eventually they will be on the LEFTIST menu and subject to the tyranny that they promote.

Never.


21 posted on 04/22/2018 10:51:32 AM PDT by joshua c (To disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives)
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To: americas.best.days...
I don't remember reading she was fired or if she quit.

I recall a vague, 'she's no longer with the company'.

If she took a payoff it might be more difficult to win a case but a good lawyer can find a way around it.

22 posted on 04/22/2018 10:55:49 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: truth_seeker

Policies in a suburban location are probably not the same as those in urban locations. From a practical perspective urban outdoorsmen make a difference in how you have to handle things.


23 posted on 04/22/2018 11:11:45 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

When enough liberals finally feel the unfairness of their own policies, then things might turn around. But it takes a lot to make liberals wake up.


24 posted on 04/22/2018 11:15:16 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: yesthatjallen

Accepting a non disclosure agreement would be cowardly. How does one get their reputation back? I’m sure she can be bought like all leftists. I would insist that the agreement be reopened if the 2 ‘gentlemen’ sue and end up with a bigger settlement.


25 posted on 04/22/2018 11:15:43 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Cubs Fan
It would be fun if black people filled every empty seat in every Starbucks store. They could sit there all day. (Or stand, as long as they don't exceed the capacity set by the fire department.) If they get hungry, they would get a substitute to hold their seat until they were finished with lunch at their favorite non-Starbucks place. Starbucks wouldn't be able to do a thing.

26 posted on 04/22/2018 11:52:17 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: google,TWITTER,FACEBOOK,WaPo,Hollywd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: Cubs Fan
Starbucks has not provided much information about how long the customers were in the store, or what its precise policy for dealing with non-paying customers is — leaving people free to speculate that Hylton is simply a racist.

I've wondered since this started just what the Starbucks policy is, if they have one, corporate wide policy on loitering and public use of bathrooms. That seems to be one of the key questions and I haven't seen a clear answer yet.

How hard can it be for Starbucks to state their policy, if they have a clear and written policy?

If they don't have that, then this former manager should become a multi-millionaire.

27 posted on 04/22/2018 11:53:44 AM PDT by Will88
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To: ETCS
Not only did they not buy anything but the two free loaders actually brought water bottles in with them so it's a little worse than just loitering. It's like bringing a beer into a bar or a sandwich into a restaurant.

28 posted on 04/22/2018 12:08:42 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen ((Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong))
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To: Will88
According to a wall street journal article all philadelphia stores have this policy.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/starbucks-lacks-clear-guidance-for-employees-on-non-paying-customers-1524308400

...all of the company-owned Starbucks in the Philadelphia area have signs informing people that the bathrooms and the lobby are for paying customers only.

29 posted on 04/22/2018 12:18:08 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (Trump is all that stands between America and left wing totalitarianism)
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To: All
A Starbucks spokesperson, Jaime Riley, told The Washington Post on Wednesday that “in this particular store, the guidelines were that partners must ask unpaying customers to leave the store, and police were to be called if they refused.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2018/04/19/they-cant-be-here-for-us-black-men-arrested-at-starbucks-tell-their-story-for-the-first-time/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2b7d5dd5c54f
30 posted on 04/22/2018 12:26:07 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen ((Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong))
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To: Cubs Fan
..all of the company-owned Starbucks in the Philadelphia area have signs informing people that the bathrooms and the lobby are for paying customers only.

That must be behind the WSJ pay wall, but if true and such a sign was in that particular Starbucks, then the CEO is an idiot and ripe for a major law suit. But if such a sign is in that store, one would think at least several news outlets would have photographed it and reported about it.

It just makes no sense that multiple news outlets have been unable, or unwilling, to nose out the information to clear up the company policy, or local policy question.

31 posted on 04/22/2018 12:45:31 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Cubs Fan

Does racism qualify for defamation? I don’t think so.


32 posted on 04/22/2018 12:48:33 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Will88
But if such a sign is in that store, one would think at least several news outlets would have photographed it and reported about it.

MAYBE, BUT Most of the news orgs are liberal. They would gladly leave that out. Just like the way they deliberately leave off illegal when talking about illegal immigrants. Why ruin a good liberal narrative with facts to the contrary?

33 posted on 04/22/2018 12:58:03 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (Trump is all that stands between America and left wing totalitarianism)
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To: SgtHooper
Does racism qualify for defamation? I don’t think so.

being called a racist wrongly does and it should. Its the lefts favorite sleazeball weapon.

34 posted on 04/22/2018 12:59:22 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (Trump is all that stands between America and left wing totalitarianism)
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To: Will88
BTW this quote also appears at this other source about 10 paragraphs down--No pay wall this time :)

https://vaaju.com/starbucks-lacks-clear-guidance-for-employees-of-non-paying-customers/

..all of the company-owned Starbucks in the Philadelphia area have signs informing people that the bathrooms and the lobby are for paying customers only.

35 posted on 04/22/2018 1:04:50 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (Trump is all that stands between America and left wing totalitarianism)
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To: Cubs Fan
Roberts (GMA host) asked Robinson about Starbucks’s policy that restricts nonpaying customers from using the restroom or sitting in the store, as well as the fact that the police told him and Nelson to leave.

“I understand that rules are rules, but what’s right is right, and what’s wrong is wrong,” Robinson said. “That’s in any situation, whether there’s race involved or anything.”

The above is from the Compost story linked in post #30, from Robinson, one of the "victims". So he has deemed that his experience is above and beyond any rules and must be judged in some higher sense of right and wrong that makes him a victim, supposedly.

So there Robinson seems to admit he knew the rules in that Starbucks, rules set for all, not just him and his sidekick.

If some court doesn't untangle this nonsense and set it right, then things are worse than most probably believed, at least in some parts of the country.

36 posted on 04/22/2018 1:10:41 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Cubs Fan

If that’s true, and also that the “victims” knew the rules for that Starbucks, then we’ve got legions of folks acting like PC fools in what is really a very simple, commonplace, everyday situation


37 posted on 04/22/2018 1:14:30 PM PDT by Will88
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I would think the non-disclosure agreement works both ways. I would be suing in California due to the better laws since they are throwing her under the bus.


38 posted on 04/22/2018 7:30:33 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: House Atreides

She should be compensated in an amount equal to the value of all Starbucks coffee sold in that store since its opening, oh...wait...that wouldn’t be right, she wouldn’t get anything that way.


39 posted on 04/23/2018 3:26:08 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: truth_seeker
Reporter: “What is the company policy about non-buying “customers?” Off duty SB manager: "Non-buying customers” is an oxymoron.
40 posted on 04/23/2018 4:05:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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