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Levin: Why Gorsuch teaming with the Left on immigration is disastrous to Trump's agenda
Conservative Review ^ | April 18, 2018 by | Nate Madden

Posted on 04/18/2018 8:53:17 PM PDT by conservative98

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To: dirtboy

“I vastly prefer a justice who exercises restraint in this day and age of gross federal overreach.”

That’s a valid concern on one side. On the other side, there is “strike while the iron’s hot”, “there’s no do-over” and the fact that the lefties on the SC have no such compunction when it fits their agenda.


21 posted on 04/18/2018 9:33:08 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: FredZarguna

Always seemed clear to me Gorsuch was a pompous ass but I figured ok he’s conservative.


22 posted on 04/18/2018 9:34:42 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: BillyBoy

Complete Levin Interview that explains what Gorsuch did:

https://youtu.be/eUGR0Fpo3-w?t=10m20s


23 posted on 04/18/2018 9:34:58 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: LouieFisk

I realize there are two sides to this debate. Which IMO means the hotheads bashing Gorsuch are out of line.


24 posted on 04/18/2018 9:35:39 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: conservative98

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1zqKVrraWzPKB?t=5m12s

Another perspective!


25 posted on 04/18/2018 9:37:39 PM PDT by Lopeover ( The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: dirtboy

“I realize there are two sides to this debate. Which IMO means the hotheads bashing Gorsuch are out of line.”

Understandable, tho - it is frustrating in light of the fact it seems unlikely be solved via legislation.


26 posted on 04/18/2018 9:42:25 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: Williams

IMHO, Gorsuch is a “new natural law” afficiando and as (gor)such will be all over the ballpark with situational ethics type reasoning.

Worried about him from beginning. Find another Clarence Thomas or two.


27 posted on 04/18/2018 9:47:29 PM PDT by amihow
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To: LouieFisk
Understandable, tho - it is frustrating in light of the fact it seems unlikely be solved via legislation.

IMO, the conservative approach has to be that it has to be solved via the legislature, not the judicidary. Some of the same folks who wail about lower courts usurping executive powers are now wailing about SCOTUS not usurping legislative powers.

28 posted on 04/18/2018 9:47:33 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: amihow
Find another Clarence Thomas or two.

Gorsuch is closer to Thomas than Scalia.

29 posted on 04/18/2018 9:49:03 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Helicondelta

Nope. This will force congress to change the law.


Nope.

Gorsuch is not just saying change the law. He is saying that deportation is now a criminal punishment that requires all forms of due process.

Somebody comes into the country illegally. They are found out, they are apprehended and they are removed. That is the original notion.

They don’t get to come into the country illegally, found out and then claim due process rights, get a lawyer and then remain in our country and go into court.


30 posted on 04/18/2018 9:49:48 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: dirtboy

On what basis could you at this point say Gorsuch closer to Thomas than Scalia? I Disagree.


31 posted on 04/18/2018 9:52:20 PM PDT by amihow
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To: amihow
Gorsuch is more libertarian than Scalia. I reference the Raich decision for an example where Thomas disagreed with Scalia. I can see Gorsuch aligning with Thomas on that decision. If you have not read Thomas' dissent on Raich, I strongly suggest you do such.
32 posted on 04/18/2018 9:54:57 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: BillyBoy

Mark says now with Gorsuch’s vote there’s going to be many more criminals in this country that would have otherwise been deported by Trump.

So we have a decision like this and we have sanctuary cities. Mark asks, is this in the best interest of the American people? It is going to be much harder to deport criminals that are here from other countries, if they can be deported at all.

Too bad this is discussed so inaccurately on FR and most quarters if it is even discussed at all. Because we need to focus on Stormy Daniels and her lawyer. Two losers.


33 posted on 04/18/2018 9:57:09 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98
Daniel Horowitz of Conservative Review has written an excellent legal analysis about Gorsuch’s shocking vote...

https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/gorsuch-dead-wrong-immigration/

I want to throw out a possible way to bypass Gorsuch’s treachery.

The Immigration Act of 1965 gives wide discretion to the President for enforcing immigration law.

For instance, Obama dreamed up “Deferred Prosecution” for the DACA kids.

Why can't Trump simply write a new enforcement regulation that contains a laundry list of specific crimes that illegal aliens will be deported for?

That would not violate the intent of the “vague” language in any way.

Trump could write that tomorrow if he wanted to.

34 posted on 04/18/2018 10:08:38 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: conservative98

The ruling didn’t have anything to do with the merits of deportation. It has to do with the vagerious and capriciousness of the law making it a tool of oppression.

Poorly written laws become tools of oppression.


35 posted on 04/18/2018 10:08:41 PM PDT by Fhios (Mr. Magoo, where are you?)
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To: BillyBoy

Funny how you ran off instead of answering my questions. But, then again, you were a Tommy Thompson pimp years ago. You like RINOs.


36 posted on 04/18/2018 10:08:55 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

“Gorsuch is more libertarian than Scalia”

Bingo. The law is vague and Gorsuch came down on the side of the individual and against the government.

This is not a partisan issue. The deportation was ordered by Obama.


37 posted on 04/18/2018 10:11:21 PM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: dirtboy
>> Gorsuch is closer to Thomas than Scalia. <<

Justice Thomas wouldn't be caught dead voting with the likes of Elena Kagan and Ruth Bader Ginsburg against conservative judges like Alito. I can't think of a single 5-4 ruling where Thomas went rogue and joined all four Democrat judges to oppose the conservative justices on the court.

38 posted on 04/18/2018 10:11:34 PM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: conservative98

Think Progress isn’t too happy with Gorsuch’s decision:

“Neil Gorsuch voted with the liberal justices, but his opinion should chill you to the bone”

https://thinkprogress.org/neil-gorsuch-voted-with-the-liberal-justices-ca1cc1e2fae0/


39 posted on 04/18/2018 10:12:27 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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>> I was never that much of a fan of Scalia. <<

I think that says far more about you than it does about Scalia. Regardless of people's partisan beliefs, there is almost universal consensus that Scalia was one of the most reliable conservatives on the court in decades. He was probably Reagan's best pick, and given that we're talking about Reagan, that says a lot. Reagan managed to pick a successor to Rehnquist that was even more conservative than Rehnquist.

If you're a Gorsuch fanboy, probably Sandra Day O'Connor was more your kinda "ideal" SCOTUS judge.

40 posted on 04/18/2018 10:15:02 PM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact.)
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