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To: Robert DeLong

New War Between the States? Bring it, you arrogant Jersey bastards, come get in our faces.


32 posted on 04/15/2018 7:12:02 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: elcid1970
With the divisions being the same in all likelihood.

The outcome would be different this time though. 8>)

47 posted on 04/15/2018 7:28:08 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: elcid1970

Just happened to think, we would also get to test out their theory if the scary AR-15, with 30 round clips, is a bad hunting tool in the process. 8>)


49 posted on 04/15/2018 7:37:37 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: elcid1970
Speaking of the War Between the States, New Jersey was probably the most reluctant non-slaveholding state among the Northern states with regard to the conquest of the Confederacy. There were still a few slaves in the Garden State in 1860, but they were “grandfathered” when slavery was abolished. The state was a Copperhead stronghold, and Lincoln did not carry its electoral votes in 1860 and 1864. The legislature did not support the addition of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution. Support for peace with the South consisted of a combination of Dutch descendants in northeastern New Jersey where slavery lingered longer than elsewhere, Irish immigrants in the newly industrializing areas like Newark, and colonial era British descendants in southern New Jersey, whose background and culture were similar to the settlers of the Delmarva Peninsula and the Tidewater areas of Maryland and Virginia. All these groups saw the Republicans as the instrument of Yankee aggression. The Dutch and the Irish saw them as hereditary enemies. Southern New Jerseyites saw them as Puritan hypocrites.

The culture of the Garden State has shifted radically, especially in the 1960s and thereafter. Until that time, New Jersey had been a relative island of low taxes and personal liberty compared with New York and Pennsylvania. Granted, the state had plenty of dirty politicians like Nucky Johnson and Frank Hague, as well as Mafia activity, but, it was still culturally and politically conservative. That is the case no longer. New Jersey, like California, has entirely gone to the dark side.

79 posted on 04/16/2018 6:43:59 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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