Posted on 04/12/2018 8:39:04 PM PDT by rogerantone1
The polls indicate that Americans support more gun control right now, but are also very skeptical that more gun control will reduce violence or mass public shootings. We typically see such increased support temporarily after mass public shootings. To win the debate, proponents of the right to self-defense must explain how their proposals are practical. They must explain how gun control actually makes people more vulnerable to attack.
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I’m kind of worried that, with the violence in our public screwls, that the teacher would get mugged, her gun taken, and then people would get shot.
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Those six dead adults at Sandy Hook would likely vote to have a gun if they could just have a do-over,
I’ve only known one teacher in my life that I would trust with a gun. It was back when conservatives were allowed in education. He was a Marine MOH recipient for heroism on Iwo Jima.
I agree, but I also think that it’s way past time that we also have school ‘counselors’ and observers (NOT guidance counselors) who are there to look for and help the outliers. These people would be charged with identifying those who are having trouble, socially, academically, emotionally, or otherwise, and to intervene when necessary. They would be there to help, but also to protect the student from themselves and others, and to protect others from the student. If the student needed to be removed from the school and placed elsewhere, they would be responsible for those recommendations.
Schools generally have more than enough guidance counselors, and they help the majority of students who are just looking for information and guidance about what classes to take and their best options to get into schools that match their interests. What I’m advocating for is very different. The world is a tough place, and when you have kids whose parents are abusive or absent, kids who feel the don’t belong anywhere, kids who are filled with anger, kids who have specific mental health issues that require treatment, someone has to be there to identify them and to at least try to stop them from sliding further and further from a healthy path.
If he carried, he and perhaps a dozen students would still be alive.
Arm the Aarons!
If guns are put in teacher’s hands, I prefer they be required to take a firearms safety course first. I don’t want to see people carrying weapons, who aren’t sure which end to point at the bad guys.
Very good insights and ideas, neverever. Which probably means they would be opposed by the teachers unions, the ACLU, race-baiters and other “progressives”.
Let’s focus on redeeming fallen man and society and target SIN, (which is the core of these problems, not guns) so we don’t have to become a freaking armed camp with guns in a place like school to begin with and thus a perverse bastardization of what the Founders envisioned and a laughingstock of the world.
Why can we protect airports and can’t protect schools. Most teachers are products of the horsedung colleges we currently have. Do sane people really want to arm these folks. Some maybe but why not put real trained security in the schools. Trained equipped and ready to do the one job they are there for.
This event — while it looks like a good reason to NOT allow teachers to be armed omits the aspect that should be highlighted. The teachers and counselors and administrators who would be possible armed persons at school would first be involved in training.
Leaving a weapon unattended would be grounds for removal from that training course — and I would look to ensure that candidates for this activity were given opportunities during the class to see what the would do with situations where one might be tempted to break the fundamental rule about maintaining control over your firearm at all times.
They would also have training about taking restroom breaks, teaching while carrying, and the other aspects where teachers can be “suckered” into revealing that they are armed, and even students trying to capture a teacher’s weapon.
These are just some of the items that teachers would need to become adept at handling in order to qualify for the job of school student defender.
But at the same time, these teachers would also rather be armed and able to do something when a shooter shows up unexpectedly than the usual thing a classroom leader can do, which would be to barricade the door and direct students to the extreme opposite part of the classroom from the intruder’s expected entry point.
Watching the scene from the movie 15-17 to Paris where the student armed with a ballpoint pen tried to position himself next to the door to defend against a shooter was exactly the way it will be if teachers are not able to be armed.
This teacher, who can’t remember where his gun is, also marched in DC.
no no no silly- you save lives by disarming law abiding citizens- everyone knows that
s, null and void wrote:
An unarmed coach Aaron Feis was shot dead protecting students.
If he carried, he and perhaps a dozen students would still be
alive.
PARKLAND SCHOOL BOARD NIXES TEACHER CARRY
Joe Paggs has a talk show which comes on at the same time Mark Levin does but is rebroadcast in my area after Levin. Pagg’s lead story 4/12/ was that after passage of Florida’s mandatory age 21 purchase and OK’d teacher’s carry if allowed by school boards. Announced that the Parkland school board rejected any teacher carry.
I looked for that to be posted here in FR’s so far it hasn’t. The failures of those policies enacted there created conditions which not only allowed those murders to occur but probably lowered scholastic standards should have been examined and exposed while the media was beating up on the NRA and guns. But was given a pass
Some teachers, properly trained, who want to carry, should be allowed to. You don’t tell anyone which of the teachers have access to a gun at the school. Obviously it’s in a locked safe which can be opened by certain teachers/staff.
I go with the folks who say Set Up.
Some people should not have fire arms. (Put this one on the dangerously mentally disturbed list.
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