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Good article from the Federalist. The raging trolls in the comments section proves it.
1 posted on 04/10/2018 9:00:07 AM PDT by fwdude
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I’ve said for several years now that I feel like I’m living in “Dr. Zhivago”, but without the love triangle.

The signs are all around us.

And the nation will not survive this intact. As Jesus said, a house divided against itself can not stand.

It’s not a matter of “if”. It’s a matter of “when”. And it won’t be long.


2 posted on 04/10/2018 9:03:42 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: fwdude

Between the opening line about divorce being preferable to cutting the brake lines on a spouse’s car and your comment on “raging trolls”, I’m inspired to click thru and read this one.


3 posted on 04/10/2018 9:03:55 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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The main problem with the proposed map is that it assumes that we must maintain the geographical integrity of the existing states. The states are as internally divided as the nation.


5 posted on 04/10/2018 9:05:33 AM PDT by sphinx
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“In those days, take ten families from New York and ten families from Alabama, put them all in a room, and you’d find they mostly had the same values “

And he’s basing this on what?


6 posted on 04/10/2018 9:05:46 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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Redrawing boundaries can be done with a peace conference or with war.

A look at the map suggests many problems—since Leftyland would probably have to split into two coastal countries a la Pakistan—and Chicagoland would be its own island like a socialist Hong Kong.

What a mess....


7 posted on 04/10/2018 9:05:52 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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Freedom anywhere is a threat to tyranny everywhere, and the tyrants know it. We fight or our freedom is gone.


8 posted on 04/10/2018 9:05:58 AM PDT by Thud
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The divide and grounds for divorce is not regional, but urban and rural.

The solution would be for the People of the United States to divorce themselves from the largest 50 cities in the country as they are mostly socialist and vote Democrat.

Leave the rest of the nation in place minus those big cities and of course the college towns.


9 posted on 04/10/2018 9:07:07 AM PDT by Blue House Sue
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His proposed map:


11 posted on 04/10/2018 9:09:08 AM PDT by Simon Green
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Draw a line down the Mississippi. Communists to the West, Americans to the East. Given everyone 10 years to make a choice and move.


14 posted on 04/10/2018 9:09:52 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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Why would we want to avoid it turning deadly?


16 posted on 04/10/2018 9:11:30 AM PDT by The Toll
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The left will not allow such a peaceable split. Who will drive the trucks, harvest the lumber, cultivate the food and staff the factories to keep their part of the country operating?

They will only be able to generate a limited amount of income from entertainment, media, law and academia. Yes, they will be able to import illegal aliens to their heart's content to do this type of work. And, yes, they will be more pliable and obedient than flyover America. For a while. But what then?

20 posted on 04/10/2018 9:12:22 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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Yeah, we tried that down here once. Didn’t work out so well. We tried to tell y’all..LOL


21 posted on 04/10/2018 9:12:27 AM PDT by TallahasseeConservative (Isaiah 40:31)
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I disagree with the author’s conclusion.

The left must be held accountable. They need to be made to pay the ultimate price for their treasonous actions.

I welcome a civil war - because justice requires such remedy; and, as a matter of reality, there will be no “coexistence” possible as long as these traitors are allowed to have any proximity with Americans. The author is delusional if he believes that we can somehow separate this country into independent yet abutting nations, having a common border.

Those of the left persuasion are pure Marxists, with whom you cannot even hope to secure good-faith agreements. It is better to utterly defeat and destroy this enemy. It is better to spill copious quantities of their blood, so that proper justice may be extracted for the evil they have done to the nation. The time has come to dispatch every last one of them into eternity, w/o exception.


26 posted on 04/10/2018 9:15:31 AM PDT by JME_FAN
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“Divorce is hard, but it’s easier than cutting the brake lines on your wife’s car.”

That depends.


27 posted on 04/10/2018 9:16:50 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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I think the real reason is that if we divided and the liberal states separated from us, that would not satisfy them. They would immediately work to infiltrate and try to take down the new conservative state. It would take them a long time, but they would try. I say we make our stand here. Some how and some way, one way or another, the Swamp has to be dealt with. . . cut the head off the snake. They are completely out of control and totally unresponsive to the people.


28 posted on 04/10/2018 9:16:59 AM PDT by RatRipper (Unindicted co-conspirators: the Mainstream Media and the Democratic Party)
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Why not? Czechoslovakia pulled it off.


30 posted on 04/10/2018 9:17:13 AM PDT by indthkr
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IMO it’s better to stomp and crush an enemy than to let them prosper.


32 posted on 04/10/2018 9:17:21 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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A great way to fix this is to simply wipe out most of the powers of the FedGov and make it like it was before the civil war. In those days, we were a collection of soverign “countries” under a single constitutionally created “umbrella” of protection called the Federal Government. It’s job was to protect the borders within which all the separate states exist, protect the states from each other, ensure no state passes any law that violates the constitutionally protected rights of the individual and enforce laws when the perps attempt to flee from one state to another.

That should be ALL the FedGov does. This way, a liberal in Kentucky can move to Chicago if he so chooses.


35 posted on 04/10/2018 9:17:35 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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The problem is ideological and to an extent spiritual, there are no neat geographical lines. It’s largely urban vs. rural if you’ve got to draw a map, and even that doesn’t hold up, the more granular you get with the data. The people who perceive a problem are largely on either end of the ideological spectrum, the great mushy middle is just plodding along. When the great mushy middle can no longer do that, then the country will no longer cohere. My paternal grandfather was born during Reconstruction, his father was a Confederate, ran away and joined at 14 to look for his oldest brother. They hadn’t heard from him in months. Never found him, he’d been gut shot and died untreated at Point Lookout. You really don’t want civil war. You may think you do, and it may eventually become unavoidable. But, you don’t want it. Anyone who’s clamoring for it is either naive or a fool.


37 posted on 04/10/2018 9:19:14 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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I agree there is probably no peaceful path back to “One Nation”, but I have big problems with his map.


44 posted on 04/10/2018 9:22:45 AM PDT by libertylover (If people come here legally, they're immigrants; if they come here illegally, they're invaders.)
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