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To Answer Assad's Latest Atrocity, Trump Should Go No-Fly
New York Post ^ | April 9, 2018 | NY Post editorial board

Posted on 04/09/2018 1:22:18 PM PDT by firebrand

President Trump was instantly tweeting tough about Bashar al-Assad’s latest atrocity, the gassing of civilians in rebel-held Eastern Ghouta. But America’s response this time should be more than Trump’s answer to Assad’s use of chemical weapons a year ago.

It’s time for Washington to declare a no-fly zone in Syria east of the Euphrates, the region Trump freed from ISIS occupation. Assad and his Russian and Iranian allies don’t deserve to win the fruits of America’s war there, nor should Turkey be allowed to take its insane vendetta against the Kurds into an area the Trump administration liberated.

If America pulls out, as Trump suggested earlier in the month, the forces who helped defeat ISIS and the civilians they now protect will be at the mercy of thugs just as brutal.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Syria
KEYWORDS: assad; chemical; fake; fakenews; syria; trump
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To: seacapn
It's actually not on their behalf. They are now exiting their own territory. Does that sound as if they won?

Since there is some agreement in the press that it was Syria, it seems to me that it is Bashar trying to hold on to the 45% of his own country that he controls and add a bit more. He is an outsider in serious talks about Syria.

The Times moronically says that the U.S. was not even invited to the "peace" talks in Ankara. It's Syria being excluded that is the news. What is so shocking about the U.S. being left out?

21 posted on 04/09/2018 1:50:39 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: dfwgator; Alberta's Child

America routinely gets suckered in the foreign policy arena. We’re just not that good at it, but nevertheless are addicted to meddling around the world and being led by the nose by our friends who love to push our “let’s spread democracy” buttons.

We are such chumps.


22 posted on 04/09/2018 1:50:44 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: firebrand

The Turks have helicopters. And gas, etc. It could be a black flag op by them to get rid of Assad. Erdogan is making his move. I have no basis for saying this, but I doubt very seriously that the rebels did it themselves. Erdogan met with Putin and Rouhani last Wednesday and then this gas attack happens. Any connection? Might they have decided to let the West get rid of Assad and then divide up the spoils?


23 posted on 04/09/2018 1:50:55 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: Romulus
We are such chumps.

That we are.

24 posted on 04/09/2018 1:51:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: firebrand
How does a "no-fly" zone work when somebody starts shooting off serious anti-aircraft missiles, or invites their friends from Russia to come over and help out?

It seems that such a situation could rapidly expand into a much more serious confrontation. What would the USA do if Russia declared a no-fly zone over Syria? And backed it up with a salvo of cruise missiles aimed at the airbases and carriers that our airplanes fly from? Then what would we do?

25 posted on 04/09/2018 1:51:30 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: firebrand

All the neocons are out telling Trump what to do. I hope he does the opposite.


26 posted on 04/09/2018 1:53:42 PM PDT by dforest (Never let a Muslim cut your hair.)
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To: freeandfreezing

“How is it known that the toxic chemicals were not released as collateral damage from some other kind of attack? “

For THAT matter how is it known that toxic chemicals were released...AT ALL? I have seen an Al Qeida propaganda film and that’s about it.

By the way, I am really angry with the USMC. I spent way too much time sweating in a gas mask and even full suits and gloves...in a desert no less! And all it turns out I needed to be safe from nerve gas was a bandana and a bottled water???

BOHICA


27 posted on 04/09/2018 1:56:15 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DesertRhino

Then you agree with the Russians’ claim that it never even happened. For those who prefer extra simplicity in their conclusions.


28 posted on 04/09/2018 1:56:47 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand

Sounds good. But the Democrats are trying to topple Trump as President, as they see their investment in ISIS falling apart in Syria and they need to salvage that operation. And no I’m not crazy. ISIS flourished under Obama, and only died in the last 2 years.


29 posted on 04/09/2018 1:58:26 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: Romulus

“America routinely gets suckered in the foreign policy arena. We’re just not that good at it, “

Oh, we are good at it. Our only problem is that the government has to keep lying about who what and why because their agenda, AIN’T the agenda of America. But they are pretty good at getting THEIR needs met.


30 posted on 04/09/2018 2:01:07 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: richardtavor

Why would it get rid of Assad? Looks like it makes him stronger whether it’s real or fake. Except for the new sheriff, that is.

The Turks only care about getting rid of the Kurds. That is their obsession. They attacked pro-government soldiers who were on their way to help the Kurds.

I know it’s Score Cards Upset over there, but that much seems logical.

Assad keeping everyone out of the area is preventing real documentation. And what does that tell you.


31 posted on 04/09/2018 2:04:16 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand

I am claiming that the only proof I have seen is a white helmet propaganda video. Maybe you have some other proof. You and McCain, Lindsey Graham and CNN... what proof you have sport?

You listen to the same intelligence agencies that told us Trump hired Russian hookers to pee on Obama’s bed and was a Kremlin tool? You really have that kind of childlike innocence? It would be refreshing if it wasn’t so naive.


32 posted on 04/09/2018 2:05:33 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: firebrand

Oh, perfect: a NY rag giving military advice.


33 posted on 04/09/2018 2:07:05 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Give me the liberty to take care of my own security..........)
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To: firebrand

Following the always prescient advise of the NYT, President Hillary authorized a no-fly zone in Syria, thus the first of many dogfights between the USAF and the Russian Air Force, Unfortunately, following Russian military doctrine, Putin authorized the use of nuclear weapons; I write this from the Presidential bun ...


34 posted on 04/09/2018 2:08:10 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: firebrand

You see, the people who got “gassed” are in an Al Qeida area. You might remember Al Qeida...I kinda remember there was this big thing in New York and DC with them a few years ago. I know it’ll come to me in a minute.

Anyway, I remember they weren’t very trustworthy. So I’ll need more than a video from them.

In a related story, Indians waving blankets used to successfully drive large herds of buffalo over cliffs. Who is waving blankets at America today? Don’t be a buffalo.


35 posted on 04/09/2018 2:11:06 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DesertRhino

Logic, not physical proof. We’re being kept from seeing the physical proof.

Why bring up intelligence failures here of various shapes and sizes?

Israel knew the exact spot in the targeted base where the Iranians were lurking. Doesn’t sound like a failure to me.


36 posted on 04/09/2018 2:12:10 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: PIF

I really need to stop by CVS and get some of that 5 million SPF sunscreen. I keep putting it off.


37 posted on 04/09/2018 2:12:45 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: freeandfreezing
Frankly, I have been waiting for some time for the Russians and Syrians to reassert Syrian sovereignty over Syrian airspace. I hate No-Fly Zones. They are chicken-sh*t violations of sovereignty that only work on punk-ass countries that can't defend their skies. No one tries that crap on real military powers (or a country protected by a real military power). The Asad government, loathsome as it is, is the recognized Syrian government. So if anyone wants to risk war with Russia over this, let them explain their estimate of the "butcher's bill."

The Russians will block any UNSC Resolution, aptly demonstrating how useless the UN really is.

38 posted on 04/09/2018 2:15:25 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: firebrand

I’m sorry. The hubris is overwhelming.


39 posted on 04/09/2018 2:16:12 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: firebrand

There isn’t any. And logic says the neocons and globalists want to remove Assad for their own reasons. Mostly because our government is Sunni and takes that side in the moslem civil war.

Logic says Trump declared it was time to leave last week and the interventionist crowd needed something to force him to stay. That is why this “gas attack” happened.

It’s no more real than the USS Maine being blown up by Spain, Gulf of Tonkin, Kuwaiti babies thrown from incubators, Poles attacking a German radio station in 1939, or Germans in WWI catching Belgian babies on their bayonets.


40 posted on 04/09/2018 2:17:53 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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