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Volunteer Church Member Stops Attacker in Church Gunfight
Ammoland ^ | 4 April, 2018 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 04/07/2018 9:07:12 PM PDT by marktwain

Volunteer Church Member Stops Attacker in Church Gunfight

On Wednesday, 28 March, 2018, the West Maypole Avenue Church of Christ was having a Bible study that started at 7:30 p.m. At 8:09 p.m., the study was interrupted by 27-year-old Kenneth Baines, who announced an armed robbery. A 57-year-old armed church member was seated inside. The church member was legally armed and had a concealed carry permit.

It seems likely that he was a member of a voluntary church security team, as later reports refer to him as a “security guard”, but no report mentions that he had a security guard license, or that he was paid as a security guard. From suntimes.com on 29 March, 2018:

A 57-year-old man was sitting in a the church at 8:09 p.m. in the 4400 block of West Maypole when a 27-year-old man walked in and announced a robbery, according to Chicago Police.

Maypole Avenue Church of Christ is located at 4400 W. Maypole.

The two men then started shooting at each other, police said. The older man was struck in the left arm and taken to Mount Sinai Hospital in good condition. The robber was shot multiple times in the chest and was in critical condition at Stroger Hospital.

The 57-year-old legally owned his gun, police said.

From the Maypole Ave Church of Christ Facebook page:

“We solemnly pray for our brother in Christ and the perpetrator of this heinous deed.”

To be a paid and armed security guard in Chicago, a special permit is required,

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
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To: marktwain
later reports refer to him as a “security guard”, but no report mentions that he had a security guard license, or that he was paid as a security guard

You got a real blockbuster scoop there, pal. Somebody's lying! Turn over every stone to find the truth and crack this case wide open!

41 posted on 04/08/2018 5:12:59 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

Interesting point in a couple of ways. Why did they not tell us if the robber was a legal carrier as well? /rhetorical

Would it be because a) he was, and thus background checks are once again proven not to be the panacea they’re made out to be? or b) he was, ho hum, illegally armed, and cracking down on the general population will be a feel-good exercise at best?


42 posted on 04/08/2018 5:18:15 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
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To: marktwain

This is what works!

When are the schools going to take down their invitations to mass murderers?


43 posted on 04/08/2018 5:38:30 AM PDT by joshua c (To disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives)
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To: marktwain

Very well done to stand in there and get bullets on target after being shot. Wow.


44 posted on 04/08/2018 6:28:03 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Mom MD

“The only thing I worry about if this happens in my church is the cross fire....”

That’s the same issue in our church. We have a State Police Officer, our Minister, and a number of other, including myself who carry.


45 posted on 04/08/2018 6:31:11 AM PDT by dis.kevin (Dry white toast)
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To: gleeaikin

My Uncle Sam told me that too.


46 posted on 04/08/2018 6:35:25 AM PDT by Redcitizen
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To: marktwain
The robber was shot multiple times in the chest and was in critical condition at Stroger Hospital.

He needs a bigger gun. Or the ambulance crew needs to drive more slowly.

47 posted on 04/08/2018 6:36:47 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Gun carriers. Is that like ushers who hand out Bibles to people who need one? :)


48 posted on 04/08/2018 6:38:05 AM PDT by Redcitizen
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To: ptsal
Ah, the photo of a Chicago PD cruiser.

Did Mayor Rahm rush to the scene to comfort the church members.

My guess is that The Ballerina went to the hospital to comfort the perp.

49 posted on 04/08/2018 7:00:39 AM PDT by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: iontheball

“Nice shooting for mass by the defender, but the fact the robber didn’t die suggests the defender may wish to consider carrying a more lethal side arm.”

Bullets may take an odd turn inside the body. They may expand, or not. And if they don’t hit a major artery, the heart, or the CNS, there is no telling if the shootee will die or live another 30 years.You can shoot someone center of mass with a 44 magnum and just punch a neat hole, or shoot with a 22 LR and remove part of the heart.

Some bad guys lose interest in a fight as soon as they see another gun. Some stop fighting with one hole in them. And some keep shooting back long after they have been fatally wounded:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_FBI_Miami_shootout


50 posted on 04/08/2018 7:03:32 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: polymuser

Lol!


51 posted on 04/08/2018 7:09:11 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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52 posted on 04/08/2018 8:30:35 AM PDT by PROCON (Repeal the Gun-Free School Zone Act, Protect Our Children!)
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To: marktwain
But but wait!!

The NRA lied: A good guy with a gun couldn’t stop a bad guy with a gun

Do Armed Civilians Stop Mass Shooters? Actually, No.

Not actually reliable news sources but you hear this meme from the left over and over and over again, until one is practically forced to believe it is true. AND then a TRUE story like this one and Sutherland Springs, Texas church shooting pops up and offers clear proof that shooters are INDEED stopped by armed "good guys". Do we ever hear corrections or apologies from the left commie gun grabbers? NO and we never will.




53 posted on 04/08/2018 8:46:32 AM PDT by Cheerio (#44, The unknown President)
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To: freepertoo

OH, Puleeeease what? You will have to specific or I will just consider that an incoherent ejaculation.


54 posted on 04/08/2018 10:14:24 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: TXBlair

I carry to church at all times, and as you said ,no telling how many other members do also. Along with the uniformed officer we have at the front door during every service.


55 posted on 04/08/2018 11:17:20 AM PDT by WP Lonestar (No matter where you go, there you are)
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To: marktwain
"Multiple shots to the chest...."

Well done!

56 posted on 04/08/2018 6:46:41 PM PDT by Envisioning (Carry safe, always carry, everyday, everywhere.)
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To: Lurker

“At taxpayer expense no doubt.”

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57 posted on 04/09/2018 5:59:08 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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