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The Joke's On Us
Townhall.com ^ | April 4, 2018 | Bill Murchison

Posted on 04/04/2018 9:00:03 AM PDT by Kaslin

I did mention Elvis once in a column, and in the '90s I pointed to one Donald Trump as the TV star you'd least likely want sitting next to you at a dinner party. And yet the likelihood, back then, of ever mentioning Roseanne Barr -- it just didn't compute. But these days...

I haven't, as of this writing, seen Barr's new show, and may not rush to supply that cultural deficiency. Not that she'd likely notice, given the Himalayan ratings she and John Goodman have been reaping for -- for what? For not breaking a metaphorical egg over the president's head at every turn in the script?

The right, for a fact, has been celebrating the new show's lack of animus toward a president whom moderate progressives don't like, and real progressives want, at the very least, to impeach. Trump has personally telephoned the star, who supports him politically. He takes the show to be "about us." Though, according to Sara Gilbert, playing Roseanne's daughter, it's "not about politics. ... It's really about what happens to a family when there's a political divide, which is something that I think the entire country can relate to and something that we need to talk about."

Talk? What an idea! Talk, not shout loudly and indignantly?

Roseanne Barr heartily endorses Sara Gilbert's assessment. On "Good Morning America" she said, "I think the idea that people can agree to disagree is kind of missing from everything. Conflict resolution and agreeing to disagree are important things that I like to talk about, and I haven't seen much of that anywhere. That's what we need to do as a country: figure out what we don't like, talk to each other, and discuss how we're going to get it changed or fixed."

Well, I'll be hornswoggled. I don't recall mentioning Elvis on account of any cultural asseverations he was making. Shows how long he's been dead (or "not dead," depending on your metaphysics). Quite a few of us recall an America with a better sense of humor than today's. That isn't saying much, really: today's America has no sense of humor, period.

Back in the early '70s, Carroll O'Connor and crew, in "All in the Family," could kid the pants off a country seriously divided by the standards of the time but ready to laugh about it. Today? Oh, brother. Archie Bunker's heckling of "Meathead," his depreciation of Edith's non-corporate-executive abilities, and his own "woyking-class" way of talking (shouting, really) would bring the alt right and the alt left, plus the #MeToos and a few Tea Partiers, to his doorstep, angry at the presumption of the show.

Yes, angry. Furious! Outraged! That is what the new humorlessness makes us. We didn't used to be humorless. We used to laugh. Shall I tell you why? It was because we had, in ye olden time, a sense of proportion; we agreed, basically, that we're all, without exception, a little bit wacky, some of us more so than others. Imperfect, that was us: no smarter, really, than Archie; no more tolerant and forgiving than Meathead. And willing to admit it, with a grin, or friendly poke in the ribs.

What happened to honest, as differentiated from mocking, laughter? I think a couple of things. Politics got so large and engrossing we set it in the middle of our affairs. Everything's political now, and every political opponent deserves a punch in the jaw or at least a shout of outrage.

So how'd that happen? I think the origin is in large part our slow abandonment of religious faith -- the great human leveler, the guard against pride and self-satisfaction, and thus against hostility to folk as batty as ourselves. A society with suspicious eyes trained on others rather than on the Kingdom is by definition a jealous society, an angry society, with no time for Archie Bunker but plenty for the mockers and railers who followed him.

We needn't expect Roseanne to heal our wounds. But it's good to see those wounds noticed -- and lamented. We're way overdue for that; I kid you not.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: americanculture; humor; roseannebarr; television

1 posted on 04/04/2018 9:00:04 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
and in the '90s I pointed to one Donald Trump as the TV star

Was Trump a TV star back in the '90s?

2 posted on 04/04/2018 9:08:31 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: Kaslin
"I think the origin is in large part our slow abandonment of religious faith -- the great human leveler, the guard against pride and self-satisfaction, and thus against hostility to folk as batty as ourselves. "

Wow! I think that's it in a nutshell how we got so humorless - "our slow abandonment of religious faith -- THE GREAT HUMAN LEVELER". And, I agree, I think that is our main problem today.

3 posted on 04/04/2018 9:10:27 AM PDT by jackibutterfly (It' funny (NOT ha! ha!). We dehumanize humans and humanize animals.)
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To: jackibutterfly

‘People who lose or abandon their religious humility, make themselves prey to every and all forms of fanaticism.’

Nazism
Fascism
Communism...


4 posted on 04/04/2018 9:21:35 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nearly all men can stand adversity...to test a man's character, give him power." A. Lincoln)
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To: Kaslin

“So how’d that happen? I think the origin is in large part our slow abandonment of religious faith — the great human leveler, the guard against pride and self-satisfaction, and thus against hostility to folk as batty as ourselves. A society with suspicious eyes trained on others rather than on the Kingdom is by definition a jealous society, an angry society, with no time for Archie Bunker but plenty for the mockers and railers who followed him.”

Is it that complicated? Evil hates Good, Good has a mandate to oppose Evil.

This guy talks as though the two sides are on the same moral plane, as though Evil has some point to make that Good should listen to.

As yefragetuwrabrumuy posted, “Evil in any of its manifestations should never be allowed to masquerade as a ‘responsible opposing viewpoint’ to good.”


5 posted on 04/04/2018 9:53:01 AM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: SMARTY
‘People who lose or abandon their religious humility, make themselves prey to every and all forms of fanaticism.’

There is some scientific evidence that human brains are "wired" to believe in something. Thus, when that biological mandate to believe is diverted away from religion, people tend to fall for all kinds of fanaticism.

Communists and other dictatorial types instinctively understand this urge to believe, I think. This is why they so often ban the practice of religion, and turn the populations towards worshipping the dictator instead.

6 posted on 04/04/2018 4:29:26 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Celebrity. Even in the 1980s.


7 posted on 04/04/2018 6:51:04 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: exDemMom

It is a failing that dictators recognize and have eagerly capitalized on in order to gain control

Some people (as a group) adore subservience and reject any sort of governance which does not demand it. They have a deep and pathological need for that servile association with leadership.

One author noted that Germany, especially, was so easy for Hitler to control because the people demonstrated that preference and actually welcomed Nazi political tyranny and social oppressiveness


8 posted on 04/05/2018 5:06:37 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nearly all men can stand adversity...to test a man's character, give him power." A. Lincoln)
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To: jackibutterfly
abandonment of religious faith

More specifically, the Judeo-Christian faith. As a sinner, how can I look down on others?

9 posted on 04/05/2018 8:23:53 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: zeugma

“As a sinner, how can I look down on others?”

Done by a few almost every day here on FR.


10 posted on 04/05/2018 8:28:01 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Kaslin

‘religious faith — the great human leveler, the guard against pride and self-satisfaction, and thus against hostility to folk’

sure...just take a look at the level headed commentary that typically goes on in the religion forum on this website...


11 posted on 04/05/2018 8:49:15 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: mad_as_he$$
“As a sinner, how can I look down on others?”

Done by a few almost every day here on FR.

True enough. Mainly because we're all sinners. I'm guilty of the same thing. However, if someone does actually want to engage, I'm more than willing. It's pretty easy to dismiss those not so willing as morons.

12 posted on 04/05/2018 9:41:22 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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