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Salisbury poisoning: UK experts cannot prove novichok nerve agent used on Skripals came from Russia
Independent / Yahoo ^ | April 4, 2018 | Kim Sengupta

Posted on 04/03/2018 8:23:49 PM PDT by NorseViking

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To: NorseViking

Whoever wants war between NATO and Russia is behind this. Central Banks, Arms Merchants and Manufacturers.... takes yer pick. We have nothing to gain by all this.


21 posted on 04/03/2018 10:11:53 PM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: goldstategop

Nobody is perfectly united. Still Putin has wangled himself apparent presidency for life.


22 posted on 04/03/2018 10:13:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: granada

Jihadists? For it looked like Trump was getting close enough to Putin to be able to do a pincer move.


23 posted on 04/03/2018 10:15:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: NorseViking

I cant believe we pay still attention to British intelligence after they screwed us over so many times. We would do well to ignore them unless we can verify what they say independently.


24 posted on 04/03/2018 10:30:31 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: NorseViking

I doubt that it was even nerve agent let alone novichok.


25 posted on 04/03/2018 10:35:38 PM PDT by RC one (Lying, cheating, deceiving & manipulating are as natural to Democrats as swimming is to fish.)
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To: NorseViking

Remember that video that was gonna’ PROVE that the Russians shot down that Dutch airliner?


26 posted on 04/03/2018 11:20:15 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Stawp the hammering!)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

I actually don’t remember it.


27 posted on 04/04/2018 12:17:19 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Remember Georgi MARKOV!!!! RICIN, with an Umbrella and pellets, in the leg, at a subway station. The KGB in action!


28 posted on 04/04/2018 12:53:51 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: NorseViking

The Brit’s are looking like real clowns in this incident. It would be funny if it wasn’t such a serious accusation.


29 posted on 04/04/2018 1:02:16 AM PDT by McGruff (#StopTheInvasion)
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To: NorseViking
Here's the head clown.


30 posted on 04/04/2018 1:05:33 AM PDT by McGruff (#StopTheInvasion)
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To: McGruff

Johnson is obviously not without mental issues as evident by his hair. I wouldn’t hire a person like that for a doorman.


31 posted on 04/04/2018 1:15:34 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Well, Sergey Lavrov, and Maria Zakharova have been calling out the UK, and those supporting this Russia did it crap.

I am really angry that our government does the same thing.
And after saying we would leave Syria soon a few days ago, to hear President Trump say if Saudi Arabia wants us to stay in Syria, they will have to pay. WTF? Our military is now being prostituted to the KSA?

When our betters get tired of making up lies, they now just shove it in our faces? America first or the whims of our global elite lizard overlords? So disgusted with politicians who as Lavrov stated are “playing children’s games”.


32 posted on 04/04/2018 2:15:04 AM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: McGruff

That country seems to be going downhill and fast. I read the complaints of the “common folk” about the uptick in crime, London being not recognizable anymore, ever more homeless, lack of funding for police, hospitals, impoverished school kids meals being cut etc. now the royal family is letting in what appears to be a political feminist leftist and her prince is friends with the Obama’s.


33 posted on 04/04/2018 4:06:38 AM PDT by kelly4c
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To: NorseViking

Probably a stable binary compound, with very long shelf life, stored in the Russian Embassy in small amounts. A simple little kit, untraceable. Snap the tiny glass vial inside, shake, apply. Some about the size of a cigarette, perhaps looks like one. Some very tiny; a pellet the size of a pinhead in a tiny loaded tube the size of a little needle.

They probably have 100 of them, 1 or 2 each of different versions. Made 20-30 years ago, good for over 50 years. Different chemical signatures, close but not proveably the same as known agents. Splice or remove one little part of the molecule and it acts the same but shows up different under spectroscopy. Deniability. Designer agents, one-offs. Perhaps 4 or 5 different classes.

And you can bet the farm these things are out there, secret as hell, rarely used. But ready.


34 posted on 04/04/2018 5:28:16 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Trump has implemented Supply Side Economics!!!)
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To: NorseViking

Well, I heard that the Skirpals visited a Himalayan temple while on vacation and didn’t leave a donation, so the Tibetans have motive here too.


35 posted on 04/04/2018 5:29:21 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: NorseViking

Novichok is a nerve agent created by the Soviet Union, manufactured by the Soviet Union, and stockpiled by the Soviet Union. It was used to try and kill opponents of the Russian regime. As circumstantial cases go I imagine most prosecutors would be willing to go to trial.


36 posted on 04/04/2018 5:37:23 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

So good assassins didn’t use Smit&Wesson or limeys would burn the White House again over it. They could also expel Benedict Arnold back to US in retaliation.


37 posted on 04/04/2018 6:22:21 AM PDT by NorseViking
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In 1995 the same agent was used by Georgian mafia to murder a Georgian businessman in Moscow.

Since the feckless British are refusing to turn over a sample of the chemical agent used, this can't be verified.

My guess is whatever was used in Salisbury does NOT match up with the known Soviet Novichoks.

38 posted on 04/04/2018 6:22:55 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck

You make valid point but another point that even if the agent is authentic it doesn’t point at state actors anyway.


39 posted on 04/04/2018 6:38:11 AM PDT by NorseViking
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I actually don’t remember it.

Exactly. It was a lie.

I honestly don't know who is pushing this blood lust for war with Russia, but it is phony and very, very dangerous.

40 posted on 04/04/2018 11:13:46 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Stawp the hammering!)
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