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Trump proposal would penalize immigrants who use tax credits and other benefits
WaPo ^ | 3-28-2018 | Nick Miroff

Posted on 03/28/2018 12:53:10 PM PDT by tcrlaf

Immigrants who accept almost any form of welfare or public benefit, even popular tax deductions, could be denied legal U.S. residency under a proposal awaiting approval by the Trump administration, which is seeking to reduce the number of foreigners living in the United States.

According to a draft of the proposal obtained by The Washington Post, immigration caseworkers would be required to consider a much broader range of factors when determining whether immigrants or their U.S.-citizen children are using public benefits or may be likely to do so.

Current rules penalize immigrants who receive cash welfare payments, considering them a “public charge.” But the proposed changes from the Department of Homeland Security would widen the government’s definition of benefits to include the widely used Earned Income Tax Credit as well as health insurance subsidies and other “non-cash public benefits.”

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KEYWORDS: illegals; immigration; subsidy; tax
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ENFORCINGthe already-existing laws is horrible headline-leading news to the WaPo, it seems.

WHY are we giving Direct cash payouts to illegals for their kids???

1 posted on 03/28/2018 12:53:10 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

Is this satire? :)


2 posted on 03/28/2018 12:54:11 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: dp0622

sadly, NO...


3 posted on 03/28/2018 12:55:15 PM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: tcrlaf

Exactly and the FAKE STREAM NEWS is worried they are going to self deport.


4 posted on 03/28/2018 12:56:29 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: tcrlaf

Immigrants and illegal aliens have been draining the Treasury for decades with the assistance of BOTH parties.

We need new GOP Senators.

Flake, Corker, Hatch, Heller, Alexander, Graham, McCain, Murkowsky, Hoeven, Rubio, Tillis, Burr, Lankford, Gardner, Cornyn, Cochran, Collins, Sasse, Kennedy, Shelby, Ernst, Blunt, McConnell, Wicker, Portman, Isakson, Johnson, Toomey, Rounds, Thune, Gaines, Barasso and Enzi are all Bush League Republicans hell bent on making America into North Mexico


5 posted on 03/28/2018 12:56:33 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: tcrlaf

Immigrants who accept almost any form of welfare or public benefit, could be denied legal U.S. residency.

Works for me.


6 posted on 03/28/2018 12:57:57 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: tcrlaf

We have more than an ample supply of American born slackards. We don’t need to import more. It is a lot cheaper to be a slackard almost anywhere else in the world.


7 posted on 03/28/2018 1:02:02 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Enlightened1

Commie media is afraid ILLEGALS will stop getting their freebies from the Govt, LEAVE, and not be able to vote Democrat anymore


8 posted on 03/28/2018 1:02:26 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Exactly. I know some Canadian green card holders who were aware of this for many years. I think the only tax deduction they take is the the very first one which is not welfare but the smallest tax break.


9 posted on 03/28/2018 1:04:59 PM PDT by max americana (Fired libtard employees 9 consecutive times at every election since 08'. I hope all liberals die.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Any illegal immigrant found to have ever obtained government largesse for any reason should never be granted citizenship.


10 posted on 03/28/2018 1:06:01 PM PDT by Bookshelf (AND)
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To: tcrlaf

https://howiecarrshow.com/ howie carr talking about it Now


11 posted on 03/28/2018 1:08:24 PM PDT by edzo4 (Thank Q very much!!!)
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To: BenLurkin

definition of benefits to include the widely used Earned Income Tax Credit as well as health insurance subsidies and other “non-cash public benefits.”

They ARE benefits. Frankly, the EITC should be eliminated period. They should not be getting subsidies of any sort as they are ILLEGAL. Note how they gloss over that by saying they could be denied legal residency IOW, they are ILLEGAL.


12 posted on 03/28/2018 1:13:29 PM PDT by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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To: Mouton

EITC is welfare.


13 posted on 03/28/2018 1:23:15 PM PDT by Freee-dame (Best election ever!)
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Put Koskinen in jail, please.

This isn’t exactly the kind of story the IRS wants buzzing around at tax time. The IRS and Justice Department normally want 'scared straight' stories just before Tax Day. Ideally, when an indictment or conviction for tax evasion hits the news, it makes you think twice. Somehow, you think just a bit more about all those deductions, or if you really reported all your income, before you sign your return under penalties of perjury.

Instead, we have the top dog at the IRS, the IRS Commissioner himself, admitting that, well, there’s a problem with illegal immigrants and taxes. In fact, the top IRS official this time wasn’t talking about how the IRS wipes some hard drives or can’t find emails. He wasn’t even asking for a bigger budget to give bonuses to IRS employees.

This time, he was talking about illegal immigrants, and about the IRS turning a blind eye. Or maybe worse. The IRS actually wants illegal immigrants to illegally use Social Security numbers, he suggested. IRS Commissioner John Koskinen made the surprising statement in response to a question from Sen. Dan Coats, R-Ind., at a Senate Finance Committee meeting. The question was a touchy one. Gee, is the IRS collaborating with taxpayers who file tax returns using fraudulent information? It wasn't put exactly that way. According to Senator Coats:

What we learned is that ... the IRS continues to process tax returns with false W-2 information and issue refunds as if they were routine tax returns, and say that's not really our job. We also learned the IRS ignores notifications from the Social Security Administration that a name does not match a Social Security number, and you use your own system to determine whether a number is valid."

Commissioner Koskinen was asked to explain this. He suggested that as long as the information is being used only to fraudulently obtain jobs, the IRS was OK with it. In fact, he said that the IRS actually had an interest in helping the illegal immigrants to crook these rules. In fairness, perhaps it's just the 'that's not my department' response that abounds in big government. Perhaps this just isn't the IRS's problem, but it sure seems odd to have any agency chief encouraging illegal immigrant theft of SSNs.

You'll love this next part. The IRS chief tried to distinguish between the various bad uses and misuses of someone else's personal data. It is at least vaguely reminiscent of the flap a year ago that differentiated President Obama and Donald Trump over immigration and taxes. Mr. Trump said illegal immigrants get $4.2 billion in tax credits. A 2011 audit by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration confirmed that individuals who are not authorized to work in the United States were paid $4.2 billion in refundable credits.

Of course, undocumented immigrants cannot legitimately get Social Security numbers, but it seems the IRS doesn't care. Besides, they can file taxes with an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number. ITIN. They are not supposed to get the Earned Income Tax Credit, but they can receive the additional child tax credit. If the President succeeds in legitimizing the status of illegal immigrants, they could even get the Earned Income Tax Credit that is responsible for billions in fraudulent refunds.

The recipe goes like this. First, get a Social Security number, then claim the Earned Income Tax Credit for the last three years. Then, wait for the IRS to send you three years of tax refunds. The gambit could apparently work even if you never paid taxes, never filed a return, and worked off the books. And the IRS says this is the way the Earned Income Tax Credit works.

Cautious IRS Commissioner Koskinen himself explained the seemingly bizarre result to Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) in 2015. Illegal immigrants covered by the President’s amnesty deal can claim back tax credits for work they performed illegally, even if they never filed a tax return during those years. This written response clarified the IRS chief’s earlier statements, confirming that illegals can get back taxes.

In 2015, IRS Commissioner Koskinen said that to claim a refund, an illegal immigrant would need to have filed past tax returns. But the IRS chief later corrected himself and said that they can claim the money even if they never filed tax returns in the past. According to the IRS, illegal immigrants granted amnesty and Social Security numbers can claim up to three years of back tax credits.

14 posted on 03/28/2018 1:23:50 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: tcrlaf

It is a good place to start. I think that any illegal who took money from he gubmint meant for Americans should be booted ASAP. No more free stuff will make some of them leave. They need to do the e-verify thing for jobs also.


15 posted on 03/28/2018 1:30:12 PM PDT by jospehm20
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.... Immigrants .... Or Illegals? ..... I hate when they conflate the two. I believe it is unlawful for Legal Immigrants to receive handouts for the first 5 or so years of residency.


16 posted on 03/28/2018 1:35:27 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: jospehm20

It’s an excellent place to start.


17 posted on 03/28/2018 1:48:29 PM PDT by jimfree (My17 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: Mouton

No, it illegal and not being a resident are not the same thing dumb dimb. You can be here on a visa and not be a resident. Thisnpolicy would apply to anyone applying for permanent residency status, such as a foreign spouse etc.


18 posted on 03/28/2018 2:30:51 PM PDT by The Cuban
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To: tcrlaf

“When you sponge, you are a citizen”
- B. Hussein


19 posted on 03/28/2018 2:49:16 PM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
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To: jospehm20

“I think that any illegal who took money from he gubmint meant for Americans should be booted ASAP.”

And any government bureaucrat who knowingly gave money to an alien invader should be required to pay it back to the treasury. After the bureaucrat is fired. If it can’t be paid back, confiscate his house, car and retirement account.


20 posted on 03/28/2018 4:20:55 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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