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1 posted on 03/25/2018 8:04:06 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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I’m going to guess that it’s because 15% of their under-age-26 population isn’t spaced out on psychotropic drugs.


2 posted on 03/25/2018 8:07:07 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (12:01 PM 1/20/2017...The end of an error.)
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The swiss govt at any time could change its mind and require every person to turn all their guns in. That’s not a govt-protected right to self defense.


5 posted on 03/25/2018 8:15:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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They don’t have a chicago or democrats with illegal guns.


9 posted on 03/25/2018 8:22:40 PM PDT by oldenuff35
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What the Swiss don’t have is 100 years of appointed bureaucrats abusing their authority to deny permits to qualified people.

I’d have been willing to accept Swiss-style controls if the shall-issue reform movement had passed quickly and universally without opposition.

But when the very people who are arguing for Swiss-style controls are to this day fighting to retain the ability to deny permits without cause, I’ll be damned if I’m going to give them more authority to abuse.


10 posted on 03/25/2018 8:25:40 PM PDT by jdege
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Too many non white Europeans. The common thread between Switzerland, Japan, Iceland or other countries is no mixing of cultures. Now that the Europeans are allowing in the Africans and Middle Easterners, they are learning the hard way. Cultures don’t mix, except for in that golden age of America before the rabble rousers found out they could destroy this country from within with just a little division. In fact they divided us by forcing an end to segregation.

Now, I think segregation was wrong, but to force an end to it was the wrong thing to do. Just as it was wrong to fight to keep the Confederacy from going their own way.


11 posted on 03/25/2018 8:27:01 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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The US media chooses to get all excited about incidents involving crazy young people with guns. Of course, the US media does not dwell on the “crazy” part. And the US media certainly does not look at the role that psychotropic drugs play. No, the US media only wants to look at the “guns” aspect.

But “incidents involving crazy young people with guns” are actually quite rare. They are tragedies but they are not commonplace. They are simply useful to push the Leftwing narrative.

The real problem that the US has (and which Switzerland does not have) is ... *cough* ... demographic.


12 posted on 03/25/2018 8:29:13 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I'm still somewhat onboard but very disappointed. Not so much "Winning" lately.)
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But they have a high per capita suicide rate...


14 posted on 03/25/2018 8:32:42 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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But the Swiss have some specific rules and regulations for gun use.

Such pathetic garbage.

My specific rule and regulation would be for liberals/leftists, and mental patients (most cases one in the same) to never have access to firearms. I would have also outlawed liberalism as a clear and present danger to America. This would have saved two Presidents, (they have their eyes on a third and do not hide it), and tens of thousands of Americans in every walk of life. Yes, tongue and cheek but this is what the left wants from us: extinction/outlaw of Conservatism and the Constitution as intended specifically stripping the 2A.

15 posted on 03/25/2018 8:32:44 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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Yeah, and Vermont has Constitutional Carry and a low Crime Rate, even though it’s packed full of Liberals, about 95% lily White Liberals.


18 posted on 03/25/2018 8:37:15 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( An Amed Scoiety is a Polite Society. An Unarmed Society is North Korea.)
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L8r


20 posted on 03/25/2018 8:41:30 PM PDT by preacher ( Journalism no longer reports news, they use news to shape our society. And if the news does not fit)
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The Swiss are fortunate to have a decentralized government. Most decisions are made by the Canton, which is the size of US counties. Moreover, being a small country, people are therefore much more directly connected to their government and feel both empowered, and responsible.

Contrast that with the feeling that America’s Deep State in Washington DC gives citizens in fly-over country.


31 posted on 03/25/2018 9:17:17 PM PDT by PGR88
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"Switzerland is obsessed with getting shooting right. Every year, it holds a shooting contest for kids aged 13 to 17."

We do that too - it's called squirrel season.
37 posted on 03/25/2018 10:19:57 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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The United States of America ain’t Switzerland. Or any other country. We are fortunate to live in a Constitutional Republic, the founding documents of which are the greatest tools for liberty and self-government ever written. Let’s stick to that.


41 posted on 03/25/2018 10:38:42 PM PDT by karnage
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Its a one race one culture nation.

They have no party running a race war.


44 posted on 03/26/2018 12:36:15 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Mueller, Obama, Hillary and Holder each made millions selling US uranium to Putin.)
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Their population is mostly non-minority.


54 posted on 03/26/2018 5:38:49 AM PDT by I want the USA back (It's Ok To Be White. White Lives Matter. White Guilt is Socially Constructed)
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The issue is not as it appears- it is not the absence of crimes committed with firearms or demographics- it is clearly in my opinion, that the US homicide rate has been driven to the bottom of the scale by the upsurge of lawful carry of arms across most of the several states.

Seriously, compare the rate of murder in the US in 1970 to that of today, even with these crazies shooting up venues and public places. If Auto crash rates dropped so precariously we’d be shouting the success from the highway overpasses. The greatest threat to a shooter intent upon mayhem is not a cop, not a SWAT team, but the chance of them meeting an armed citizen along the way. Ask an inmate.

Alas, we still have places that ae the soft underbelly of our society where murderous rampages are likely- schools in most states ( MO is not one of them in general-armed staff faculty since 2014) hospitals, sporting events, concert venues etc. The logic used by the state is the most useless argument. Always protect the most at risk scenario first ( ask why the military forces folks not to bunch up while in combat operations- the obvious answer is that a mass of targets is so much easier to engage than those separated- close as in “hand grenades and horseshoes”).

Finally, if one looks at the rate of firearms accidents since 1900, we see a process-control success story of the near impossibility of a 95%+ drop in that area. IOWs, firearms safety has reached the near statistical impossibility of an increased safety rate to the 95th percentile- a confidence interval engineers and statistical process control folks drool over!

The marches on guns are not about safety- but about tyranny and statist control, the marchers are the useful idiots who will the most easily controlled in any event.

The rest of us are not so stupid.


55 posted on 03/26/2018 5:42:25 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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While their is nothing wrong with the things the Swiss are doing with respect to guns, they are not what is making a difference between the Swiss rate of the deadly violent use of firearms versus that rate in the U.S.

It really boils down to what is it that leads to a person becoming a deadly killer. That is a behavioral issue and not an issue of “does everyone know how to use a gun correctly issue”. I do not believe for a second that what the Swiss are doing will change the things in this country that lead to their being so many killers. It sounds nice, and maybe more people would be able to defend themselves from the killers, but I don’t think it will change the “production” of killers, whatever the individual and/or collective causes.


57 posted on 03/26/2018 7:18:13 AM PDT by Wuli
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“Switzerland doesn’t have an army...Switzerland IS an army”...

When asked by one of Hitler’s generals what Switzerland would do if Germany invaded, the top general of the Swiss forces replied “The Swiss would each fire one shot and go home”...The Nazis never invaded Switzerland...

The majority of the arms held by the Swiss of military age, in their private homes, are select fire/full auto capable military grade weapons...The Swiss also have a well developed system of civilian marksmanship programs and competitions, that include the very young of both sexes, to maintain their capabilities...Government supports this system with upgraded weapons as new models become available, and with ammo and training...

Of all people, none other than Gary Hart once publicly recommended the US adopt the Swiss defense system...I’ve always agreed; we already do in the sense of the “militia”, but the idea should be formalized...


64 posted on 03/26/2018 10:08:27 AM PDT by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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Armed people are friendly people.


65 posted on 03/26/2018 1:35:27 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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Also fairly homogeneous population. Why globalists want to flood West with aliens.


69 posted on 03/26/2018 8:51:23 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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