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To: Liz

>> 2. Once Congress allocates money, their job is oversight. They don’t spend the money and have no say HOW it gets spent.<<

Clarification please. If Congress has no say how the money is spent, what is their job of oversight meant to accomplish?


88 posted on 03/25/2018 7:55:20 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat ( Who are the idiots who elected this dreadful Pope? They need to unelect him. He is a disgrace.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat
I assume you never asked that question when the Halfrican p***ed away 8 trillion dollars over his 8 years in office.

How'd he do that?

Obama NEVER had a budget, just omnibus bills (quasi budgets). Not a real budget with accountability, and specific "spending orders."

He gave hundreds of millions to Iran and pallets of gold.....no one knew where he got it.

The 2018 Omnibus Bill has no orders attached. Thanks to Obama, Trump can spend it where and how he wants.

And it won’t be spent on PP, O/Care, EPA and other liberal atrocities.

95 posted on 03/25/2018 8:13:42 AM PDT by Liz ((Our side has 8 trillion bullets;the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.))
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To: fortes fortuna juvat; Liz

I think it’s important to note the legal and constitutional distinction between ‘budget’ and ‘allocation’.

A budget is mandated in the Constitution to originate in the House, ratified in the Senate and signed into law by the Executive. A ‘budget’ carries with it a mandate that the President spend funds on budget items.

The Omnibus is not a ‘budget’. It is an allocation. As such, the Executive may draw on funds for their legislated purpose. The President may not move the allocations from one purpose to another but may do so within a purpose formatted as an appropriation. For example, the military appropriation for construction of national defense structures can be used to construct a wall along a national border if the such a wall is declared by the President to be necessary to national defense.

Other non-military appropriation in the Omnibus for border structures had allocated funds ($1.6B) for existing fence repair while calling out prohibitions that that money was not to be used for new wall construction.

If Congress had truly wanted to stop the President from constructing any new wall structure, they would have ensured there were clear words that nothing in the Omnibus, not from any allocation whatsoever, could be drawn for new wall construction. The legislators did not expect the President to declare the border wall as a national defense structure and then draw from military appropriations for its construction.

In other words, Pot of Money A is not to be used for any new border wall construction whereas Pot of Money B may be used for any National Defense structures the Executive deems necessary.

And therein lies the card that the President just played.

Of course, the President’s call will be challenged in a democrat selected court, but in appeals which I think will go straight to SCOTUS, the President’s decision will clearly survive based on the language of the Omnibus and the authority of the President.

Now there is one other comeback from the never-do-wells in Congress to play in response to the President’s unexpected actions. Congress could pass an amendment to restrict any and all new construction along the border but there is a problem for them, they’ve just pro forma recessed themselves and the President has announced wall construction begins tomorrow. A court can delay construction, but my sense is the President’s lawyers will be at SCOTUS the next day. Whatever SCOTUS does or doesn’t do, Congress is facing an election and the President’s border wall is solidly popular. We can be assured there will be no amendment from Congress that restricts the President from using the Greencastle, Indiana Army Corps of Engineers to construct the Wall. Hear that Coulter? If not, you need to stop playing boink-a-dink with Moron Maher long enough to say you’re sorry for badmouthing the President. He rolled the Swamp and you missed it.


99 posted on 03/25/2018 8:35:40 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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