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London [Muslim] Couple Murder French Nanny and Burn Her Body
Yahoo News UK ^ | 3/20/18 | Ross McGuinness

Posted on 03/20/2018 1:09:31 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck

A French nanny was beaten, killed and thrown on a bonfire after her employers accused her of being “in league” with a former popstar boyfriend, a court heard.

“Big hearted” Sophie Lionnet, 21, was starved, mistreated and violently assaulted after she went to live with mother-of-two Sabrina Kouider and Ouissem Medouni, the Old Bailey heard.

The pair, who are also French, allegedly confronted Miss Lionnet with “outlandish” allegations and kept her a prisoner in their home in Wimbledon, south west London.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
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To: Windflier
She was just 21, and was no doubt, thoroughly indoctrinated with left-liberal groupthink, as most probably were her parents. Poor thing was blinded by lies and propaganda..

You're probably right. After all, most of the so-called grownups in her country don't seem to know better either. Otherwise they would have voted for the patriot LePen instead of the Eurocrat stooge Macron. Macron seems to think that what France needs most is more Ouissem Medounis.

41 posted on 03/21/2018 7:21:00 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck
Sabrina Kouider and Ouissem Medouni

"The pair, who are also French..." Right, these guys are French like a horse in water is a fish.

42 posted on 03/21/2018 8:59:57 AM PDT by servantoftheservant
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To: Cronos

You’re saying that this is just sensationalism by the western media then?

Then I guess europe isn’t being overrun by muslim hoardes after all. I guess that the EU should just take in a few 10’s of millions more “refugees.”


43 posted on 03/21/2018 10:16:49 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: Cronos

Thank you for your input on that.

Any place that has no-go zones, is essentially surrendered territory.


44 posted on 03/21/2018 4:45:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: DoughtyOne; Berlin_Freeper

The thing is that there isn’t any “no-go” territory in Western Europe in the sense that there are places that police will not enter. Even in Germany - what Merkel meant was there are places that are “on the wrong side of the tracks” - and there are places like that even with white, “local” folks. There are no “no go” areas where cops fear to tread - unlike the favelas of Rio for example


45 posted on 03/21/2018 11:59:38 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: factoryrat; Berlin_Freeper
You are mixing up many topics:

Topic 1: these two French murderers are:

  1. second or third generation immigrants
  2. At least in the case of the woman its clear she was Muslim in name just as Carter is Baptis in name
- there is no indication that this crime was in any way connected with Islam or indeed anything other than sheer bloody mindedness.

Topic 2: Yes, there is sensationalism by western media -- this article talks about murderers. The sensationalism which is about "no go zones" is yeah, sensationalism. There are problems yes, but saying "Europe is overrun" is like saying the US is over-run by MS-13.

"overrun by Muslim hordes" -- were over-run and many are being sent back. Also, this is a German and Swedish problem mainly with Mozzies not going to other places as the other places don't have so much welfare

The EU won't take and isn't take more migrants.

Take it this way - Western European media portray the USA as a place where you can get shot anywhere, anytime. That is sensationalism, just as "moslem hordes overrunning europe" is sensationalism -- both take a grain of truth and build an entire ediface.

46 posted on 03/22/2018 12:24:09 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: servantoftheservant
Yes, they were as French as the previous French President Nicolas Sarkozy the son of Pál István Ernő Sárközy de Nagy-Bócsa - Sarkozy is half hungarian, quarter Greek-Jewish and quarter French. Or as French as Napoleon - wholly Corsican. Or as French as the mayor of Paris - Anne Hidalgo, born in Spain of purely Spanish origin who defeated Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet - of part Polish origin.

France has had people of multiple origins since the early 1700s or arguably even earlier.

As to the Algerian genes of both these murderers, Sabrina is part Franco-Algerian and Ouissem seems wholly of Franco-Algerian origin -- and these families date from the time when the French government declared Algeria as part of France, a French department (state) -- so no more strange than that there are hawaiian names among US citizens, or a Ted Cruz can be a politician.

47 posted on 03/22/2018 12:40:32 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: ek_hornbeck

LePen was heavily socialist. Macron implemented labor reforms that LePen was against.


48 posted on 03/22/2018 12:42:02 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: factoryrat
Factoryrat - if one reads Florida Man Allegedly Shouts ‘Allah Akbar,’ Shoots Wife, Knifes Children, Sets House On Fire does one need to conclude that "the USA is overrun with mohammadens"? -- no, just as these murders don't tell you
49 posted on 03/22/2018 12:55:07 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: factoryrat; Cronos
Then I guess europe isn’t being overrun by muslim hoardes after all. I guess that the EU should just take in a few 10’s of millions more “refugees.”
You are saying incompetent and failed US foreign policy is going to create millions more refugees?
50 posted on 03/22/2018 12:59:06 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Nobama)
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To: Cronos

Overrun is rewarding millions of illegals full citizenship (DACA) including the right to vote (Goodbye Republican Texas - overrun).

As opposed to a million war refugees (created by Bush and Obama) who can be shipped back when their country is stable, whether they like it or not.


51 posted on 03/22/2018 1:13:58 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Nobama)
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To: Navy Patriot
You will blame Putin and send a replacement for the maid.

That bitch is a disgrace!

If there were still an England, the two who murdered the French nanny would soon be a gig for Alfred Pierrepoint!

52 posted on 03/22/2018 1:29:43 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Cronos
LePen was heavily socialist. Macron implemented labor reforms that LePen was against.

Worrying about labor reforms when your nation is undergoing a demographic/cultural transformation from European to Arab is like worrying about a dripping faucet when burglars are breaking into your home.

53 posted on 03/22/2018 3:13:52 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck
you said . Otherwise they would have voted for the patriot LePen instead of the Eurocrat stooge Macron. Macron seems to think that what France needs most is more Ouissem Medounis. - You complained about them electing "a Eurocrat" - to which I pointed out that LePen is socialist. Then you said Worrying about labor reforms when your nation is undergoing a demographic/cultural transformation from European to Arab is like worrying about a dripping faucet when burglars are breaking into your home. and to what I tell you that
  1. you forget that Macron has also taken a hard line on immigration
  2. LePen promised a clamp down on new immigration just like Macron - no difference
  3. LePen wanted to clamp down on Muslim jihadis and Muslims praying in the streets -- and neither of these murderers would be affected by that - they aren't beards or burqa types that would be targeted by LePen.

54 posted on 03/22/2018 4:05:34 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos
LePen is not a "socialist" - the Socialist Party of France is pro-Muslim and in favor of increased immigration. She is a nationalist - and the nationalists, like every viable party in Europe, favor some kind of social welfare state. You aren't going to get a US-style libertarian in Europe - so the choice is between a welfare state with national sovereignty (LePen) or a welfare state without national sovereignty (the actual French socialist party, and the Eurocrat Macron).

Macron had to make some empty promises to restrict Arab and African immigration in order to neutralize LePen, in much the same way that GOP establishmentarians promise to "secure the border" every time they run for office and then do nothing. In contrast, the central platform and program of LePen's party is restricting immigration. If she were President of France, they would already have drastic cuts to immigration. Macron, of course, being an EU internationalist, will do nothing of the sort. Macron is the Bill Clinton of French politics - willing to make some cuts to taxes and regulation perhaps, but an internationalist and a liberal at his core.

55 posted on 03/22/2018 7:37:23 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Cronos
Topic 2: Yes, there is sensationalism by western media -- this article talks about murderers. The sensationalism which is about "no go zones" is yeah, sensationalism. There are problems yes, but saying "Europe is overrun" is like saying the US is over-run by MS-13. "overrun by Muslim hordes" -- were over-run and many are being sent back. Also, this is a German and Swedish problem mainly with Mozzies not going to other places as the other places don't have so much welfare

Close to 10% of the French population is Muslim (predominantly Arab, but also Sub-Saharan African), with much higher numbers than that in urban metropolitan areas. Moreover, because most Third World people breed at astronomical rates (prolifically and at a young age), that 10% will be more like 30-40% within a couple of generations. If that isn't a case of being "overrun," I don't know what is. Does the population need to be 100% non-European before you consider it "overrun"?

56 posted on 03/22/2018 9:09:27 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Cronos

Not buying it.


57 posted on 03/22/2018 6:32:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: DoughtyOne; Berlin_Freeper

Welll, BerlinFreeper and I live here and we can tell you first hand. The stories about no-go areas where police fear to tread is in the same vein as stories that on every street in the US there is a gun battle daily.


58 posted on 03/22/2018 11:04:17 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: ek_hornbeck
What makes Le pen "far right"?
The 2017 National Front manifesto renews its commitment to a massive reduction in legal immigration. Ms Le Pen argues French citizenship should be "either inherited or merited". As for illegal immigrants, they "have no reason to stay in France, these people broke the law the minute they set foot on French soil".

But if that is a far-right stance, it is not very different from that of centre-right candidate Francois Fillon - who when first elected as the Republican candidate enjoyed a small advantage over Ms Le Pen in polls but has since been damaged by claims of improper use of state funds.

-- and that's the same policy that Macron has

Portraying herself as beyond the establishment, she has championed public services - for non-foreigners - and presented herself as a protector of workers and farmers in the face of "wild and anarchic globalisation".

and Is Le Pen really far right?

Of course, far from being far-right, Le Pen’s views on secularism are broadly within the views of the French and American republics.

As for it being far-right to ‘flirt’ with getting out of Nato, then we must describe President de Gaulle — who pulled his country out of the alliance in 1966 — and four decades’ worth of his successors (including President Mitterrand) — as far-right.
Her policies on economy etc. are socialist

Her policies on immigration are no different than Macron

The Socialist party in France (which is vile for many reasons) is also against immigration.

She is a nationalist, yes, but also a socialist

Macron

Le Pen may have done more, I grant you that, but we don't know what she would have done in reality.

59 posted on 03/22/2018 11:26:06 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: ek_hornbeck
Firstly, most of the 10% of Moslems that are there from before 2011 were/are French - remember that France made Algeria an integral departement of France - De Gaulle coined the term Algerie-Francaise.

Secondly, the Algerian French are highly integrated and many are "Muslim" as much as much of France is "Christian" - like Rachida Dati

According to the French Government, which does not have the right to ask direct questions about religion and uses a criterion of people's geographic origin as a basis for calculation, there were between 5 and 6 million Muslims in metropolitan France in 2010. The government counted all those people in France who migrated from countries with a dominant Muslim population, or whose parents did. Only 33% of those 5 to 6 million people (2 million) said they were practicing believers

Still too much - I grant you -- in fact I would say any number > 0 is too many Mohammadens

There is a problem with the new migrants yes - uneducated and if coming from non-Syria then radicalized.

But you exaggerate by saying 1. EUROPE is overrun -- this is France we're talking about, not Poland, not Italy

and

2. Europe is OVERRUN - the numbers are bad, but less than the number of Latinos in the US.

60 posted on 03/23/2018 12:31:28 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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