I think Trump has at least one more friend.
Posted on 03/16/2018 6:32:56 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
In a December phone call with Saudi Arabia’s King Salman, President Trump had an idea he thought could hasten a U.S. exit from Syria: Ask the king for $4 billion. By the end of the call, according to U.S. officials, the president believed he had a deal.
The White House wants money from the kingdom and other nations to help rebuild and stabilize the parts of Syria that the U.S. military and its local allies have liberated from the Islamic State. The postwar goal is to prevent Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his Russian and Iranian partners from claiming the areas, or the Islamic State from regrouping, while U.S. forces finish mopping up the militants.
The Saudis, whose crown prince arrives in Washington on Monday for extensive meetings with the administration, are part of the anti-Islamic State coalition but have largely withdrawn from the fight in Syria in recent years. They are questioning the eye- popping sum even as U.S. officials at one point were drawing up line items totaling $4 billion.
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Saudi and all the ME countries need to grow up and pony up. It’s their back yard, clean it up and shake 600AD off the old sandals. Surely that part of the world can provide more to the rest of the world than terrorists and opium.
*** I’d rather see the $4B go to removing every single Wahhabist mosque that Saudi Arabia built here in the US.***
Amen.
isnt the Syrian conflict just an extension of Iraq then Libya ? which were all efforts to curtail the trading of oil in NON-USD ? Iraq/Libya/Syria were Russias USD money laundering operations for Russian ooil deals that were cutting in to OPEC's dominance and threatening the USD as World Reserve currency.
Russia has become the worlds largest broker of oil in NON-USD and that is what these wars are all about....NO?
Most countries do not want to go against the OPEC cartel "rules" of trading only in USD because it usually ends in a visit from a US aircraft carrier group or a surgical drone strike
just sayin' (correct me if I'm wrong here)
Trump was asking the Saudis to pay up for the protection racketeering muscle we have been providing for them to keep their OPEC on top all these years ....”time to kick in to the kitty” as Trump said as a campaign promise
*** Obama, Clinton and McCain owned the Syrian policy of America overthrowing sovereign states and thought it would fall as fast as Libya. Why would President Trump even step a toe into this fiasco? ***
Search for the 2015 YouTubes of Lindsey Graham, Gen Mattis, Ash Carter on Syria. Lindsey is unhinged and scarey, IMHO.
Not sure what word encompasses the enthrallment, arousal, and completely out of control actions he was displaying in the hearings I watched.
I’ve seen psych patients get escorted to a rubber mat lined room for less.
There is a saying about the Kurds, “They have no friends, but the mountains” I think Trump is in the same boat. No friends but Melania and Barron.
** threatening the USD as World Reserve currency.**
Some countries going to the Petro-Yuan. Some countries are better tacticians than us. We think what worked in the past will work same as always.
I think the US is wrong. We didn’t change the same old same old militaristic thinking. The wars/entanglements we are in are not “just wars”. They are self serving, opportunistic wars that do not serves the interests of the everyday American, or the young men fighting them.
I truly hoped Trump was going to change that.
Yes (more fully, "Arab Spring" "Regime Change" in Tunisia, Oman, Yemen, Egypt, Syria, Morocco and Libya) starting in January 2011.
Which were all efforts to curtail the trading of oil in NON-USD ?
More accurately they were all moves to require the trading of all commodities in the UN Globalist Western European Banking System and the IMF.
Qaddafi was specifically targeted because of his vast gold holdings and his complete independence from the IMF. He planned to be the Islamic alternative banker for the Mid East/North Africa.
Iraq/Libya/Syria were Russia's USD money laundering operations for Russian oil deals that were cutting in to OPEC's dominance and threatening the USD as World Reserve currency.
Question is a bit over complicated, but basically no. Russia did not need to steal oil or black market it, or avoid Western Banking, they sold oil through a vast network of pipelines discounted through Ukraine, to Eastern and Western Europe.
The theft and black market consisted of Arab and Muslim Terrorist groups.
Russia has become the worlds largest broker of oil in NON-USD and that is what these wars are all about....NO?
First a little background,
What changed was this: Ukraine was not paying for a lot of the oil it got at a discount, and it occurred to the Soros Globalists that a Western "Democratic Color Revolution" would deliver that freebie oil to them to profit on, as well as all the minerals, land and manufacturing Ukraine to them, completely cut Russia off from mid and Southern Europe, plus deliver the Sevastopol Naval base to NATO.
So they engineered the Ukraine coup.
Now your question makes sense, and Yes, Russia foiled the plot, and began engineering ways of working outside the Western Banking and Ukrainian delivery systems.
Eventually this (and BRICKs) will severely damage the USD as World Reserve and petro exchange currency.
Most countries do not want to go against the OPEC cartel "rules" of trading only in USD because it usually ends in a visit from a US aircraft carrier group or a surgical drone strike.
Sadly, that's reasonably accurate.
December 23, 2009
Massachusetts senior U.S. Senator John Kerry provided a letter on Senate stationery that supported constituents who participated anti-Israel, pro-Hamas Gaza Freedom March, led by President Barack Obama ally Code Pink.
Code Pink co-founders Jodie Evans and Medea Benjamin used Kerry’s letter at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, Egypt to pressure the Egyptian government to allow 1300 leftists passage into Gaza from Egypt. The leftists gathered in Cairo from around the world to mark the one-year anniversary of Israel’s defense against Hamas’ rocket and mortar attacks.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=184_1265385533
May 31, 2010
Was the 6 ship Gaza flotilla attack
http://www.wnd.com/2010/05/160661/
December 18, 2010
The Arab Spring begins in Tunisia, then Syria, Libya, Yemen, Egypt, Bahrain, Algeria, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Morocco, Oman and Saudi Arabia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Spring
January 25, 2011
Riots broke out in Egypt
April 2, 2011
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12659
FRANCE’S CLIENT & QADDAFI’S GOLD
From: Sidney Blumenthal
To: Hillary Clinton
Date: 2011-04-02 02:00
Subject: FRANCE’S CLIENT & QADDAFI’S GOLD
… Qaddafi’s government holds 143 tons of gold, and a similar amount in silver. During late March, 2011 these stocks were moved to SABHA (south west in the direction of the Libyan border with Niger and Chad); taken from the vaults of the Libyan Central Bank in Tripoli.
…
February 11, 2011, Egypt’s Mubarak resigned as their leader.
The Egyptian military assumed power.
October 20, 2011
Libya’s Muammar Qadhafi was killed.
December 15, 2011
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta formally shuts down U.S. war in Iraq with 4,500 American dead, 100,000 Iraqi dead and 700 al-Qaida left in Iraq.
In 2014 there were 60,000 ISIS.
June 24, 2012
Muslim Brotherhood Mohamed Morsi was elected president to Egypt.
Nagla Mahmoud, Morsi’s wife and a member of the Muslim Sisterhood was a friend of Hillary but they had a falling out when Hillary said Morsi was “naïve” and “unfit for Egypt’s presidency,” Nagla Mahmoud threatened to expose the special relationship between Morsi and the Obama administration.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/.../morsis-wife-threatens-to...
We are still fighting a war in Syria. Over 475,000 people have died.
The CIA project Timber Sycamore for training rebels. The NYTimes downplays the numbers, the CIA spent over $1 billion a year on this project.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/24/world/middleeast/us-relies-heavily-on-saudi-money-to-support-syrian-rebels.html
President Trump ended the project.
At the end of President Obama’s term, ISIS held 40 percent of Iraq and one third of Syria.
At the end of President Trump’s first year, ISIS no longer held any cities.
Raqqa, Syria is freed from Obama supported rebels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY_ny8VZawU
“Lindsey is unhinged and scarey, IMHO.”
Poofters do not care about legacy or progeny, and care not a whit about anyone’s children unless the child is a mark. It is all about the poofter’s cravings, right here, right now. They are depraved in many ways. That is why wee Lindsey comes across as so unhinged.
I think Trump has at least one more friend.
Mark me down as a bit suspicious.
President Trump has said its about Islamic State in
Syria and nothing else.
The Saudi jihadists are fighting Assad and his allies Iran and Russia.
They must want more US military support for their endeavors since they are losing ground in places like Ghouta.
Trump says stay out and I hope he doesn’t change his mind about in the face of Saudi money.
And in Bridgewater and Bedminster, NJ.
Additionally, you have made the factual observation that President Trump has acted to significantly reduce ISIS and other Islamic Terrorist fighters and authority in Iraq and Syria in just one year's time.
For clarity, I would like to add that the Eastern European "Democratic" "Color Revolutions" were the Globalist - Obama Regime's comparable plan for Leftist Prog Nazi Coups in Eastern Europe and the Balkans, and are supported in a similar manner.
The commonality in purpose of these actions is primarily the protection of the Western Banking System, IMF, EU and currency "control" and secondarily the control of Natural Resources (as property), primarily petro and gas, secondarily minerals and productive land.
Control of Banking and oil are the two primary reasons for the Globalist campaign in this hemisphere.
Trump’s desire to disengage from Syria will strengthen the Islamist hand of Erdogan who will not wind up as an opponent of Assad and Russia, but their stooge in northern Syria, and he will keep it - northern Syria, subservient to Assad in many ways, while Erdogan keeps it “quiet” for his own ethnic cleansing benefit.
It was a sobering watershed moment
President Trump's desire, and US disengagement with Syria has nothing to do with the fact that Turkey, Russia and Assad are already cooperating and are not opponents in the areas of mutual interest in Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Saudi quadrangle.
... but their stooge in northern Syria, and he will keep it - northern Syria, subservient to Assad in many ways,...
Yes, Erdogan will be subservient to Russia and have to be nice to Assad, but he will reap a handsome profit for doing so, Erdy will get a cut of the profits from all the future Saudi Group gas and petro pipelines through Syria and Turkey to Greece and Western Europe. Those pipelines will be under Russian control rather than the EU Globalist control that the EU and NATO planned.
while Erdogan keeps it “quiet” for his own ethnic cleansing benefit.
Very likely, the Russians could care less for anyone who cuddled up to the EU while they stole Russian oil and gas, and Assad probably feels the same way about the ISIS terrorists who stole Syrian oil to supplement their US financing. Assad will just have to overlook the Turkish involvement in theft of Syrian oil, but he too will get a cut of pipeline profits and his own oilfields back.
Finally Iran cashes in with free trade route access to the Med. All of this possible because of the Fabulous Obama Regime Arab Spring.
It took me a long time and quiet a few connections to figure this out as well, so that's why I laid it out as I did.
“All of this possible because of the Fabulous Obama Regime Arab Spring.”
No. It is all a result of the regime change agenda against Assad which was not begun by Obama (it was begun in the 1st term of GWBush) but simply came to great public notice once that agenda used the Arab Spring as the excuse to launch its protests against Assad. Everyone who thought (in the west - the U.S. and Europe, and the Middle East - Turkey, the Gulf, Saudi Arabia) who thought Assad would fall to the “Syrian Opposition” without inviting Iran and Russia in in everywhere he could, was just dreaming. The destabilization of Syria and the giant level of Russian and Iranian involvement was an under appreciated inevitability in my view. The U.S. and its partners took a security situation with Syria that was contained and manageable in my book, and insured, with the regime change agenda, that that situation would become worse. Folks can argue Obama could have done more but (a) merely using American air power early on in support of the “Syrian opposition” (McCain’s desire) would have insured the military success of the best organized best fighting forces of that opposition - the radical Islamists; and (b) the American people under NO PRESIDENT were going to agree to American “troops on the ground” in Syria in a style like Iraq and Afghanistan. That means American options were limited by reality.
The BEST thing for the west would have been if from the beginning the west had made clear to the “Syrian opposition”: Don’t start a war with Assad. It will be yours alone and you will lose. Thousands of lives would have been saved and the security situation vis a vis Iran and Russia as regards Syria would have been back at the manageable level it had been stable at for a long time. The west gave Assad, Russia and Iran all the excuse they needed to advance their (Iran & Putin’s) interests.
President Trump gives a speech to 55 Muslim leaders at the Arab Islamic American Summit.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/05/21/president-trumps-speech-arab-islamic-american-summit
This was a great speech. The most important aspect of it was he was telling the Muslim world that he is not like his predecessor, his intentions are not to make their country in our image.
This guy, Jeff Dunetz, wrote an article I found to be quite informative, “Islamist Terrorism was Invented in Saudi Arabia, Will it be Destroyed There?”
Nov 26, 2017
http://lidblog.com/islamist-terrorism-invented-saudi-arabia-will-destroyed-also/
In his article he mentions a 2013 UN Report.
Facebook let me publish the entire 2013 EU report in my Facebook Notes. This might be better than the original PDF. By reading the 2013 EU report, its 36 pages long, you see that this Jeff Dunetz article accurately portrays the Saudi caliphate.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/steve-siemen/2013-caliphate-report/10155975830935040/
Excerpt:
When ISIS made overthrowing the Saudi monarchy as a goal, the Saudi’s began to see the connection between Wahhabism and terrorism and started moving away from their 270-year alliance with Wahhabism.
In 2014, Reuters reported that then King Abdullah pressured the senior clergy in Saudi Arabia to denounce terrorist doctrines promoted by the likes of al Qaeda or ISIS, and they started vetting the kingdom’s 70,000 mosques, firing the clerics who promote terrorism.
A May 2017 visit by President Trump elicited a Saudi promise to fight terrorism.
**
That visit by Trump must have been the Arab-Islamic/American Summit.
Now, as I mentioned before, the CIA had an operation called Timber Sycamore that trained and armed the rebels. The Saudis funded much of the operation.
This did start in 2011. Our nation hated Assad in the previous administration, but the Arab Spring started in 2011. The CIA was headed by Brennan who had worked closely with the Arabs. Hillary was getting paid by the Arabs. Her closest confidant Huma Abedin was Muslim Brotherhood, so was Morsi that became Egypt’s president. Morsi’s wife was good friends with Hillary. Obama lived 5 years with a Muslim stepdad in Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world.
It is looking like they were all in on a caliphate. If you look at how the refugees spread throughout the world due to the Arab Spring, it looks likely that this was planned.
We know Hillary was in it for the money. We know that Comey worked for Hillary’s Clinton Foundation. I don’t know how Mueller delivering uranium to Russia fits in.
What we do know is that the Saudis dropped the hardline Islam approach and turned to a more moderate Islam granting some women’s rights. After Trump’s visit they united to cut off the money flow to ISIS and placed sanctions on Qatar for promoting violence through al Jazeera and financially supporting ISIS.
The Saudis, UAE and I forget who else recognized that social media was what incited the Arab Spring.
I’ll post that next.
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