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To: Wuli
Trump’s desire to disengage from Syria will strengthen the Islamist hand of Erdogan who will not wind up as an opponent of Assad and Russia,...

President Trump's desire, and US disengagement with Syria has nothing to do with the fact that Turkey, Russia and Assad are already cooperating and are not opponents in the areas of mutual interest in Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Saudi quadrangle.

... but their stooge in northern Syria, and he will keep it - northern Syria, subservient to Assad in many ways,...

Yes, Erdogan will be subservient to Russia and have to be nice to Assad, but he will reap a handsome profit for doing so, Erdy will get a cut of the profits from all the future Saudi Group gas and petro pipelines through Syria and Turkey to Greece and Western Europe. Those pipelines will be under Russian control rather than the EU Globalist control that the EU and NATO planned.

while Erdogan keeps it “quiet” for his own ethnic cleansing benefit.

Very likely, the Russians could care less for anyone who cuddled up to the EU while they stole Russian oil and gas, and Assad probably feels the same way about the ISIS terrorists who stole Syrian oil to supplement their US financing. Assad will just have to overlook the Turkish involvement in theft of Syrian oil, but he too will get a cut of pipeline profits and his own oilfields back.

Finally Iran cashes in with free trade route access to the Med. All of this possible because of the Fabulous Obama Regime Arab Spring.

37 posted on 03/17/2018 12:29:20 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America needs another European World War)
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To: Navy Patriot

“All of this possible because of the Fabulous Obama Regime Arab Spring.”

No. It is all a result of the regime change agenda against Assad which was not begun by Obama (it was begun in the 1st term of GWBush) but simply came to great public notice once that agenda used the Arab Spring as the excuse to launch its protests against Assad. Everyone who thought (in the west - the U.S. and Europe, and the Middle East - Turkey, the Gulf, Saudi Arabia) who thought Assad would fall to the “Syrian Opposition” without inviting Iran and Russia in in everywhere he could, was just dreaming. The destabilization of Syria and the giant level of Russian and Iranian involvement was an under appreciated inevitability in my view. The U.S. and its partners took a security situation with Syria that was contained and manageable in my book, and insured, with the regime change agenda, that that situation would become worse. Folks can argue Obama could have done more but (a) merely using American air power early on in support of the “Syrian opposition” (McCain’s desire) would have insured the military success of the best organized best fighting forces of that opposition - the radical Islamists; and (b) the American people under NO PRESIDENT were going to agree to American “troops on the ground” in Syria in a style like Iraq and Afghanistan. That means American options were limited by reality.

The BEST thing for the west would have been if from the beginning the west had made clear to the “Syrian opposition”: Don’t start a war with Assad. It will be yours alone and you will lose. Thousands of lives would have been saved and the security situation vis a vis Iran and Russia as regards Syria would have been back at the manageable level it had been stable at for a long time. The west gave Assad, Russia and Iran all the excuse they needed to advance their (Iran & Putin’s) interests.


39 posted on 03/17/2018 2:55:39 PM PDT by Wuli
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