Posted on 03/11/2018 8:16:36 PM PDT by saywhatagain
South Korea media report the special message from Kim Jong Un conveyed to Trump via South Korea envoys involves setting up US embassy in Pyongyang as part of normalizing US-NK relations. "It's much bigger than releasing 3 US hostages. KJU wants full diplomatic relations with US."
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This is an article from South Korea media. It is an very important message regarding the North Korean talks and future.Where is our media? /s /r
Kim Jong-un's desires US Embassy in Pyongyang
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1. What does that mean? That means NK wants a peace treaty and that's why KJU said, "We need some warranty: we need assurance of regime preservation and safety from our counterpart (US)." So NK wants to not only remove accumulated UNSCR sanctions but wants full diplomatic relations.
2. That could set separate agendas for the 2 summits taking place in April & May: for the US-NK summit, security and military-related issues will be on the table: denuclearization & peace negotiations. For the SK-NK summit, relaxing tensions, separate families, cultural exchanges
3. Per SK insider, "KJU wants firm US pledge of peace and 'regime preservation' is key consideration." That's what's being asked for the offer of "apparent denuclearization" on the part of NK. KJU also voluntarily described NK as a "poor country."
4. NK watchers are still skeptical. But some believe NK does not see nukes & missiles as ends in themselves but as currencies to trade for things like security guarantees, economic aid and even diplomacy: "It could be a long-term strategic move on the part of KJU," who's still young
5. Obviously one strong factor in the decision is the economic squeeze wrought by continuing sanctions. They may be beginning to shake the faith of KWP and military elites and could widen to regular Pyongyangites. "He probably saw there're limits to what he can do with nukes"
6. Some thought the special message was regarding 3 US hostages or KJU's promise to not to develop ICMBs which could target continental US. But ICBMs will be part of denuclearization talks and the hostages may be offered by NK as a "gift" to US during talks.
7. Moon's handlers reassure Japan-Russia-China. "After we establish a 'peaceful order' on Korean peninsula, others will follow: NK-Japan diplomatic relations that will solve abductee issues." There will be no "Japan-China passing." That's why Chung & Suh are going to those countries
8.In any case that was apparently why Trump was so enthusiastic. He was convinced by these 2 SK envoys (Suh and Chung) that NK has a long-term vision laid out and that vision involves economic development and disarmament, if a pledge of "regime preservation" can be guaranteed by US
Are human rights going to be part of the deal? If not, then no way.
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We have an embassy in Cuba, so we can have one in N. Korea, if that will keep them from launching a nuke to the US,
How about a consulate? No way Trump wants to spend a hundred million for a building in North Korea. And why? For expats and tourists? lol
Remember back in October when 200 workers were killed in North Korea in a "mining accident"?
Perhaps it was a U.S. military attack that took out most of the nuclear bomb infrastructure. Now Kim is running scared and looking to at least preserve his position of power with the NK people and is willing to deal away his nuclear capability in order to do so.
I don’t think we formally opened an Embassy in Cuba since severing relations after Castro seized power. We’ve had a U.S. Interests Section at the Swiss Embassy in Havana, though.
How about NK agrees to reunite with SK and there’s no need for a new embassy.
The trouble with Cuba is that Obama got absolutely nothing in return.
We have current laws that do not allow aid to go to certain countries IF, there are human right abuses or the government is a dictator.
I am living in such an example. Thailand is under dictator rule. Yet it is very strategic that several months ago, US Navy conducted war games with Thailand Navy. and and many other examples.
For me . . . we have to respect human rights isssues. Number 1 no doubt about it, yet we have to deal with the practical matters at hand and gently lead the way.
Yeah I know, show me an example of it working . . . none :(
The plot thickens.
Did Cuba cause hearing loss and brain damage in diplomats? Why would we expect better treatment from the Norks?
if trump brokers a deal with noko- will trump get the nobel peace prize?
I have been searching and searching for information about that 200 fatality accident at the North Korean nuclear site.
I have been reading a lot on kinetic weapons after seeing a theory that it couldve been, may have been...
The estimate I saw is that a rod from God would have cost a minimum of $240,000,000 to lift into orbit but would have broken no existing space treaty.
When weve been sending up stuff like the X-37 for more than a year and one went up in September.... the accident was in October.... and I just wonder if the stuff Dale Brown and Tom Clancy is tame compared to reality.
I dont believe either to be true or untrue but more of a we will never know.
All the folks were saying earthquake. I come from earthquake country (Southern California) and I am going . . . uh . . . and where is the "faultline? minimal if any aftershocks.
For me . . . I believe it was an "operation"
“North Korea” as an entity must end. There must be reunification, and Kim should be bought off with massive land and wealth transfer to effectuate it. Heck, give him 1% of Samsung and Hyundai too...the savings will be worth far more to the South.
I think Elizabeth Warren would be a great NK ambassador.
She could make sure they never take advantage of us.
President Trump went to Saudi Arabia, and people complained that he didn't bring up human rights enough. Yet, soon after he left, Saudi women won the right to drive and be in the military.
If you are old enough to remember the fall of the Berlin Wall, remember how things changed slowly at first. But then events overtook the leadership, and massive change was inevitable, and accomplished before it could be stopped. We will see this soon in North Korea.
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And foreign aid.
This is starting to smell funny. Or maybe KJU is cracking up. It could go wrong fast if we’re not careful.
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