Posted on 03/11/2018 2:31:20 PM PDT by SaveFerris
Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., argued that her familys claim to Native American ancestry is an indelible part of who she is something that can never be taken away.
Warren defended herself on NBCs Meet the Press with Chuck Todd Sunday morning when asked what she thought about taking an easily accessible DNA test, such as those offered by 23andMe or Ancestry, to settle the ongoing controversy over her heritage.
Rather than address that question specifically, Warren told a story about how her mother and father, born and raised in Oklahoma, met as teenagers and fell head-over-heels in love. Her fathers family was bitterly opposed to their relationship, she said, because her mother was part Native American, but the couple eloped and persevered.
Thats the story that my brothers and I all learned from our Mom and our Dad, from our grandparents and all of our aunts and uncles. Its a part of me, and nobody is going to take that part of me away not ever, Warren said.
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One can declare they are most anything when they don't have to prove it.
The evidence of this is in white people who declare they are black without proof; a male person who declares he is female without proof; an old man who declares he is a young girl without proof. In some cases the law can force others to accept their declarations without proof.
An autosomal DNA test depicting estimated ethnicity won’t necessarily prove whether Warren is part Cherokee or not. If someone had one cherokee marry into their family 4-5 generations back it may or may not show up on the ethnicity results.
What the tests are useful for is to match against distant cousins. You can see which chromosome segments have the matches. If you and your distant cousins have done their family research (which isn’t perfect either) you may be able to come close to proving your ancestry.
Warren should take the tests and see if she matches against any known Cherokee descendants in that area / time period. So yes DNA tests can be used to provide Cherokee ancestry — I just would not count on the so-called ethicity results to confirm anything.
Its a part of me, and nobody is going to take that part of me away not ever, Warren said. Even if it was a lie...
My background is in mathematics.
With the exponential increase of ancestors (doubling every generation) the only correct interpretation of a single 7th generation ancestor's ethnicity is "less than one percent" since 1/128 is less than 1/100.
I happen to have one 8th generation ancestor (1/256) who is reasonably believed to have been Native American (Wiota). There is no way that I'm going to claim to be Native American when I have a couple dozen of that generation who were Swiss-German.
The Human Genome Project Completion: Frequently Asked QuestionsThe human genome contains approximately 3 billion of these base pairs, which reside in the 23 pairs of chromosomes within the nucleus of all our cells. Each chromosome contains hundreds to thousands of genes, which carry the instructions for making proteins. Each of the estimated 30,000 genes in the human genome makes an average of three proteins.
We get our traits from a lot more than just the 23 pairs of chromosomes.
You were scammed by Princess Liawatha when she claimed during the interview process that she had Indian blood.
It sounds like she’s anti-science.
But the traits are on the chromosomes.
[Were her DNA not to show Native American ancestry or be too far removed to qualify as a minority she could be looking a fraud charges. ]
You read my mind. That’s the other side of the coin if she’s not setting up her critics.
Could be she’s trying to stay out of prison.
Thanks everyone for bumping the thread. Although we see in th keywords that the Respect My Authority Posting Patrol was here.
Brilliant!
You were scammed by Princess Liawatha when she claimed during the interview process that she had Indian blood.
Oops “the keywords”
More accurately ‘in the chromosomes’ which contain as many as 30,000 genes which determine those traits. Each gene making an average of 3 proteins which further refine those traits.
it twas the aunt that told the falsehood
Young girls made their own paper dolls from the pictures in the Sears and Montgomery Ward catalogs.
Young boys were just as imaginative and inventive.
There were some things a kid with a couple of old Land O Lakes cartons and a razor blade could do to Mia, the Land O Lakes Indian Maiden.
Especially with her knees.
Awesome!!!
We were told by my husband’s uncle that Grandma was 1/4 Choctaw. I spent countless hours over the last 20 years researching our family history but never found that elusive brave or squaw. Then last year we all took the Ancestry DANA test and surprise, surprise! Not one freaking allele was NA. Oh well, gotta respect science I guess. Surprised that a progressive like Pocahontas won’t do the same.
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