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The Chicken Littles Are Hammering Trump on Trade, but Charles Payne's Truth Bombs Blow
Townhall.com ^ | March 5, 2018 | Scott Morefield

Posted on 03/05/2018 6:07:02 AM PST by Kaslin

President Trump’s Thursday decision to begin the process of keeping his campaign promise to protect the American industrial base by imposing tariffs on imported steel and aluminum has seemingly gotten everyone in a tizzy, oddly uniting Big Business, top globalists, the IMF, the GOP Establishment and even liberal Democrats, all of whom never agree on anything yet are united that this particular decision will mean nothing short of an economic apocalypse for the United States.

Truly, to hear these folks tell it we’re looking at an economic scenario to rival the bleak hellscape of The Walking Dead, minus the zombies (unless you count liberals as zombies, which arguably wouldn’t be that far off). 

So maybe I’m exaggerating a bit, but Chicken Little does sound pretty reasonable by comparison. 

Consider:

The American Chemistry Council, a group that represents some of the world’s largest corporations, including Procter & Gamble, 3M, DuPont and ExxonMobil, says the tariffs will have “punishing” effects for the economy. Anheuser-Busch, the largest beer maker in world, said the plan would “put jobs at risk and would be against the US consumer.”

Columbia University’s Jeffrey Sachs writes on CNN.com of President Trump firing the first shot in a “delusional and destructive trade war,” and that “United States as a whole, and the world, could suffer enormously from Trump's reckless ignorance.” The Washington Post laments the “world-spanning economic consequences” of Trump’s decision. Forbes contributor Steven Hanke even called Commerce Secretary Wilber Ross not just a protectionist, but an “arch” protectionist, as if the “arch” is supposed to make him more like Dr. Evil.

Utah Senator Orrin Hatch called the move a “tax hike the American people don’t need and can’t afford.” Nebraska’s Ben “muh principles” Sasse likened it to “kooky 18th-century protectionism.” Pennsylvania’s Pat Toomey, a Club for Growth supported candidate who barely won reelection by less than 2 percentage points in a state Trump won for the GOP for the first time in almost two decades BECAUSE he promised to get tough on trade, considers Trump’s proposal “a big mistake.”

Liberals, too, are in agreement. The folks at Vox think Trump “decided to put the global economy at risk because he was in a pissy mood.”

Hell, even Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer is on board, saying on a recent cable appearance, “To say that trade wars are a good thing is just wrong.”

Other nations are naturally piling on, but only because they see signs that their thus-far lucrative gravy train might be ending. Li Xinchuang, vice chairman of the China Iron and Steel Association, thinks Trump’s move is “stupid” and “does no good to everyone except a few American steel enterprises.”

Because really, if China doesn’t care about American steel enterprises, should anyone?

Canadians are also apoplectic, “flabbergasted” even, at the prospect of American actually standing up for its own manufacturers.

And of course, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) warned the decision would not only hurt the United States, but other countries as well. 

Because apparently the meaning of capitalism these days is for the United States to allow other countries to impose tariffs on its goods at will and never respond in kind to protect its own workers and industrial base.

Thankfully, Trump’s decision isn’t without its defenders in in the media, led of late by Fox Business host Charles Payne, who says he is not a “protectionist” but wants, like most people slandered with the term, fair trade for all. Lately, Payne has waged a heroic Twitter war with those who would sacrifice America’s industrial base on the altar of globalism. As Payne brilliantly points out, despite the grim prognostications of those who seemingly know better, tariffs not only have worked for America in the past, but are currently working for our competitors now.

“I know tariffs are bad but...” Payne tweeted, “It seems to be working very well for the fastest growing economies in world.” The Fox Business host then listed several nations that employ tariffs and the 10 year average growth of each one. 

Here are a few more truth bombs from Mr. Payne:

Let's be clear, the EU is against tariffs when America uses or considers them but they levy 10% on all US car imports we only have a 2.5% rate on their car imports. #justsaying”

Currently there are certain nations that take advantage of our civility and commitment to rigid belief that "free trade" really exist when there are hundreds of active cases at the WTO at any given moment. China isn't going to risk $500 billion to protect cheap subsidized steel.”

As for a trade war and the prospect for higher prices, Payne isn’t too concerned. 

“The gauntlet has been thrown!” Payne tweeted, “During campaign when candidate Trump said he would push back against unfair trade including using tariffs I asked Trump voters if they would be willing to pay more for products to make a transition back to US production and everyone said ‘yes.’”

“There will be no trade war,” writes Payne. “Sure, but who would China sell $505,597,100,000 stuff Americans bought from them last year? Cuba? China isn't going to do anything the new Emperor isn't going to risk toppling his fragile empire.”

Of the strong history of so-called “protectionist” policies, the venerable Pat Buchanan, who has been brilliant on this issue for decades, opines, “Under protectionist policies from 1865 to 1900, U.S. debt was cut by two-thirds. Customs duties provided 58 percent of revenue. Save for President Cleveland’s 2 percent tax, which was declared unconstitutional, there was no income tax. Commodity prices fell 58 percent. Real wages, despite a doubling of the population, rose 53 percent. Growth in GDP averaged over 4 percent a year. Industrial production rose almost 5 percent a year.”

So much for the "kooky" theory that trade protectionism equals economic disaster!

Buchanan laments the post-1962 demise of a Republican Party that had been, throughout its history, willing to campaign and win on protecting U.S. industry (just as Donald Trump did in 2016). “Where in the history of great nations,” Buchanan asks, “Britain before 1850, the USA, Bismarck’s Germany, postwar Japan and China today, has nationalism not been the determinant factor in economic policy?”

Payne promises to release a report early this week on the average tariffs for the fastest growing countries in the world. Will those who view the data still insist that America cannot possibly protect its industrial base and win economically?

In a piece last July arguing against Trump’s trade policies, even the Atlantic had to admit that “Many economists and industry experts agree that the United States faces unfair competition and artificially low prices that have damaged the domestic steel industry.”

“But they don’t agree that a tariff is the right approach for addressing the problem,” the piece continued, because tariffs “could backfire,” or something. 

Sure, it’s a nice argument, but if tariffs have worked in the past for the United States and continue to work for the rest of the world, it’s not one bolstered by history or reality. 

Not that the Chicken Littles have ever been concerned with either. 


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KEYWORDS: charlespayne; tarrifs; trade; tradewar
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The rest of the title is: Their Theories to Smithereens

1 posted on 03/05/2018 6:07:02 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
President Trump’s Thursday decision to begin the process of keeping his campaign promise to protect the American industrial base by imposing tariffs on imported steel and aluminum has seemingly gotten everyone in a tizzy, oddly uniting Big Business, top globalists, the IMF, the GOP Establishment and even liberal Democrats, all of whom never agree on anything yet are united that this particular decision will mean nothing short of an economic apocalypse for the United States.

If it is upsetting Big Business, top globalists, the IMF, the GOP Establishment and liberal Democrats then it is most likely a good thing for the People of the United States.

2 posted on 03/05/2018 6:10:05 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill.)
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To: Kaslin
What's interesting about this issue is that the supporters and opponents of these tariffs are BOTH right -- from the points of view of their respective constituents.

If I work for an aluminum producer in the U.S., I'm a big fan of the tariff. If I work for Boeing and I've been making airplane wings with imported aluminum for the last five years, I don't like this tariff at all.

3 posted on 03/05/2018 6:11:46 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: Kaslin

Everyone who pipes in on this panic of what they believe Trump’s tariffs will cause are exposing themselves as One World Globalists. They know Trump forcing other countries we trade with to remove or lower their tariffs on US goods will slow down the roll toward an elitist utopia.


4 posted on 03/05/2018 6:13:20 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (We Arizonans need to get rid of McCain/Flake as all of us pray for Trump.)
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To: Kaslin
FNC took Charles Payne back so why not Eric Bolin??????

What's the problem - sure Bolin is white but he still deserves another look.

After all, he and his poor wife suffered the maximum blow of having their son taken by his dependence on drugs who wound up dead!

Eric probably committed whatever he did during a time when his drinking was out of control.

FNC has a reputation of working with their employees who definitely need help - look at Greg Jarrett, FNC gave him not one but two bad errors and he's back and better than ever now!

Even God allows for Second Chances, when our hearts are broken.

5 posted on 03/05/2018 6:17:18 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Kaslin
"Anheuser-Busch, the largest beer maker in world, said the plan would “put jobs at risk and would be against the US consumer."

Actually InBev, who acquired Anheuser-Busch in 2008.

6 posted on 03/05/2018 6:21:23 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Kaslin

Bkmk


7 posted on 03/05/2018 6:22:35 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Kaslin

Great article


8 posted on 03/05/2018 6:23:45 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Kaslin

What about all the illegals raising the prices of health care, schools, etc., while lowering wages.


9 posted on 03/05/2018 6:23:55 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Blue Collar Christian

No kidding

Since when does a world super power import critical commodities that would be cut off at an enemies whim?


10 posted on 03/05/2018 6:25:25 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: zerosix

Biking is focusing on other issues at the moment


11 posted on 03/05/2018 6:26:00 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: WayneS

Precisely...what does that tell you?


12 posted on 03/05/2018 6:26:21 AM PST by gr8eman (Since God has been banished from our classrooms, Satan has filled the void.)
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To: Kaslin

It’s kind of funny, tariffs are seen as an evil cause of “trade wars” which jeopardize the entire global economy — but only when the US makes use of tariffs.

Other countries always have tariffs. No big deal. No trade war. No global economic calamity. But if the US does that sort of thing, the sky is falling. Some people think Smoot-Hawley started the Great Depression. It didn’t. And Trump’s tariffs won’t hurt us either.

We can play the game everybody else plays. They just don’t like it when we win.


13 posted on 03/05/2018 6:26:48 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The government cannot protect you and isn't even trying. Self-defense is a right.)
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To: WayneS

Agreed and the GOP needs to hammer this home in ads, especially in the Rust Belt states. The Democrats are not the party of the rank and file Union laborer, but the GOP has been piss poor on trade as well, until Trump.


14 posted on 03/05/2018 6:35:52 AM PST by TallahasseeConservative ( Isaiah 40:31)
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To: Kaslin
The big fish are upset because their money bets are placed on the expectation of the continuing hollowing out of America, the worse America does the more they make while American citizens are reduced to poverty and slavery.
15 posted on 03/05/2018 6:35:52 AM PST by WMarshal (Molon Labe!)
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To: Tench_Coxe

“Actually InBev, who acquired Anheuser-Busch in 2008.”

I remember when that deal happened, it was a classic corporate inversion to avoid US corporate taxes. I bet they wish they were an American company now.


16 posted on 03/05/2018 6:37:23 AM PST by WMarshal (Molon Labe!)
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To: Kaslin

The businesses just want cheaper steel and aluminum. Period. Not too worried about national security.

The fact is our ability to produce high quality steel and aluminum has been greatly reduced as China and others flood our market with (government subsidized) cheap steel and aluminum, putting our companies out of business.

As a nation, we need the steel and aluminum manufacturing capacity as a matter of national security.

This is a Trump shot across the bow; keep dumping your goods in any industry and we will retaliate. Leadership, for a change. I think we can afford a few cents more for a can of soda/ beer.

Repercussions are so over-hyped!


17 posted on 03/05/2018 6:42:18 AM PST by dan on the right
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To: Tench_Coxe
<>"Actually InBev"<>

Yes, and...

InBev is a brewing company that resulted from the merger between Belgium-based company Interbrew and Brazilian brewer...

18 posted on 03/05/2018 6:42:28 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Truth comes in few words; lies require more.)
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To: Kaslin
We have been in a “trade war” for decades and we are loosing. Apparently like Islamic jihad; this is just another battle our “betters” are too craven or traitorous to fight.

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19 posted on 03/05/2018 6:44:03 AM PST by yuleeyahoo (Those are my principles, and if you do not like them...well I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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To: Kaslin

uniting Big Business, top globalists, the IMF, the GOP Establishment and even liberal Democrats,

Trump.has outed of our nation’s enemies.


20 posted on 03/05/2018 6:44:30 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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