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Donald Trump: Police Should Have Taken Guns From Florida Shooter ‘Whether They Had The Right Or Not’
Huffpost ^ | 2/28/18 | Paige Lavender

Posted on 02/28/2018 1:08:37 PM PST by DoodleDawg

President Donald Trump criticized police for not doing more to prevent a mass shooting at a Florida high school, arguing they should have taken the shooter’s guns away “whether they had the right or not.”

During a bipartisan meeting with lawmakers on gun control Thursday, Trump suggested guns should be taken away “immediately from people that you can judge easily are mentally ill,” alluding to the Florida shooter, who had undergone a psychiatric evaluation in 2016 but was ultimately not hospitalized.

“The police saw that he was a problem, they didn’t take any guns away,” Trump said. “Now that could have been policing, but they should have taken them away anyway, whether they had the right or not.”

He doubled down on the claim later in the meeting after Vice President Mike Pence spoke about due process and giving local law enforcement more leeway to obtain a court order to collect firearms from potentially dangerous people.

“Mike, take the firearms first and then go to court, because that’s another system,” Trump said. “A lot of times, by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court, to get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: TigersEye

And stop with the, “The nation” BS. I’m talking about this specific horrific case where everyone down there sat on their asses and did nothing.


81 posted on 02/28/2018 3:03:34 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TigersEye

Don’t be butt hurt. You support Cruz’s gun rights. I get it.


82 posted on 02/28/2018 3:04:41 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
No, you're defending Trump's statement that the police should act whether they have the law on their side or not. You use the virtue-signalling emotional straw man to make yourself feel more moral. You think like a Progressive. You post like a little kid.

Yukyuk☺

83 posted on 02/28/2018 3:06:37 PM PST by TigersEye (13 Russian Facebook trolls ... and a Siberian partridge in a Russian Olive tree.)
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To: dragnet2

I’m not butthurt by your sophomoric virtue signalling Progressive straw man BS.


84 posted on 02/28/2018 3:07:38 PM PST by TigersEye (13 Russian Facebook trolls ... and a Siberian partridge in a Russian Olive tree.)
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To: TigersEye
No, you're defending Trump's statement that the police should act whether they have the law on their side or not.

That's right, because in this specific case, that's exactly what should have happened as they had multiple reasons to do so. Would you like me to list all the red flags, warning and threats?

I have no problem doing that for ya. Let me know.☺

85 posted on 02/28/2018 3:12:33 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: DoodleDawg

At least in Nevada police can put someone on an involuntary 72 hour hold I think, if they deem them a danger to themselves or others. His guns should have then been confiscated. It seems that once during the 39 or 44 times they were called, they should have considered that.

I’d have to call my son to find out the exact statute but my guess is all states have that availability.

Police just don’t like to deal with it. Obviously the police in Florida didn’t want to.


86 posted on 02/28/2018 3:13:35 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: dragnet2
That's right, because in this specific case, that's exactly what should have happened as they had multiple reasons to do so.

You're contradicting yourself. They had multiple legal reasons to do so. You're defending Trump's statement that suggests they should have acted illegally. That statement is the subject of the thread not the specifics of the Parkland shooting.

You argue like a Progressive, can't stay on topic, can't stay consistent, rant and rave like a little kid yet want people to take you seriously. LOL Fat chance!

87 posted on 02/28/2018 3:18:17 PM PST by TigersEye (13 Russian Facebook trolls ... and a Siberian partridge in a Russian Olive tree.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Read up on due process. There is no law authorizing the police to take the guns away form someone who isn’t threatening anyone.

Nikolas Cruz was making threats. Repeatedly. Online and off.

This is one of those "taking Trump literally vs. figuratively" moments. The fact is, there was due process for taking Cruz's guns based on his actions. This is why the President is misspeaking.

The President doesn't seem to realize that there was due process in place—the real problem is that Democrats ignored it—at the cost of public safety—because they're more interested in federal funds and eliminating the "school to prison pipeline".

The blood is truly on the hands of the Democrats in Broward county—both the school board and the police—and they should all lose their jobs because of their criminal negligence...

88 posted on 02/28/2018 3:20:12 PM PST by sargon ("If the President doesn't drain the Swamp, the Swamp will drain the President.")
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To: TigersEye
You bet, I think they should have taken psycho boy's guns.

You don't. I have no problem with my position.☺

89 posted on 02/28/2018 3:21:40 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

You lie. I just did say they should have taken his guns.

But you always lie so no surprise there either.


90 posted on 02/28/2018 3:22:57 PM PST by TigersEye (13 Russian Facebook trolls ... and a Siberian partridge in a Russian Olive tree.)
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To: TigersEye
Oh, you think they should have taken Cruz's guns too? Then we agree.☺
91 posted on 02/28/2018 3:24:57 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Yes, legally. Not illegally as Trump suggested. The topic of this thread.

Try to focus ... for once.


92 posted on 02/28/2018 3:26:53 PM PST by TigersEye (13 Russian Facebook trolls ... and a Siberian partridge in a Russian Olive tree.)
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To: dragnet2
Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit

Is that a confession of your strategy? It's what you've been doing in every post on this thread.

93 posted on 02/28/2018 3:29:24 PM PST by TigersEye (13 Russian Facebook trolls ... and a Siberian partridge in a Russian Olive tree.)
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To: TigersEye

They had the legal right to take them. There was dozens of red flags, warning, and threats. The problem is, no one down there did anything. They sat on their asses.


94 posted on 02/28/2018 3:29:44 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TigersEye

You’re getting real person here. Ya sure ya want to continue?


95 posted on 02/28/2018 3:30:22 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Personal too.☺
96 posted on 02/28/2018 3:31:03 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
They had the legal right to take them.

I said that.

There was dozens of red flags, warning, and threats. The problem is, no one down there did anything. They sat on their asses.

You're evading again. That's not the topic of this thread.

97 posted on 02/28/2018 3:31:10 PM PST by TigersEye (13 Russian Facebook trolls ... and a Siberian partridge in a Russian Olive tree.)
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To: dragnet2
You’re getting real person here. Ya sure ya want to continue?

It's your tagline. You disingenuously use it on others all the time then proceed to deceive and evade like you're doing here.

98 posted on 02/28/2018 3:33:17 PM PST by TigersEye (13 Russian Facebook trolls ... and a Siberian partridge in a Russian Olive tree.)
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To: DoodleDawg

The police should have left that nutcase’s guns alone. They should have arrested him and held him for psychological evaluation. However, they have no authority to take personal property without due process, and certainly not firearms that are given special legal protection because they are key to a fundamental God-given right. This is about leftist hatred for firearms, not about safety . . . or are they going to take his knives, his SUV, his cleaning products from under the kitchen sink, etc.?

Taking firearms without the burden of due process makes it too easy to weaponize this sort of action. Taking firearms is cheap and popular with those who hate freedom. Holding someone for psychological evaluation is much more expensive, and that cost will prevent widespread abuse of the tactic.


99 posted on 02/28/2018 4:09:56 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: DoodleDawg; Donald J Trump
“Now that could have been policing, but they should have taken them away anyway, whether they had the right or not.”

Put a sock in it, Donald!!! You sound like Nancy Pelosi. Or Hillary. Or 0bama.

We did NOT elect you to start advocating a police state.

100 posted on 02/28/2018 4:12:16 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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