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MSNBC Host: Handgun Bullets Are Ineffective In Stopping School Shooters Because They're Too Slow
Townhall.com ^ | February 26, 2018 | Matt Vespa,

Posted on 02/26/2018 1:34:23 PM PST by Kaslin

Talk about a facepalm moment. Is it the media’s stupidity or stacking sandbags because they know this National Rifle Association initiative could gain traction? You decide. The NRA wants more armed guards in schools. Teachers should be allowed to carry as well. After the tragic Sandy Hook shooting, the school board voted to approve this proposal. This is not an alien concept. A lot of schools have resource officers; Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, the site of the most recent school shooting on February 14, had such officers. They failed to engage the shooter, Nikolas Cruz. Scores of teachers in Ohio are signing up for gun training courses to obtain their concealed carry permits. So, since the NRA is akin to ISIS in the minds of the liberal media, what do you do? Well, if you’re MSNBC, apparently it’s to make the argument that handguns aren’t effective in stopping shooters, who are armed with rifles, because the bullets from pistols are too slow.  I will repeat that: handgun ammunition travels so slow that its ineffective at stopping someone armed with a rifle (via Daily Caller):

MSNBC anchors are claiming that teachers armed with handguns would be unable to stop a school shooter because rifles shoot “three times faster.”

Anchor Lawrence O’Donnell said on his show Thursday night that “a bullet fired from an AR-15 travels 3x faster than one from a handgun…and yet the president and the NRA think giving teachers guns will stop a school shooter.”

Lawrence: A bullet fired from an AR-15 travels 3x faster than one from a handgun.

And yet the president and the NRA think giving teachers guns will stop a school shooter https://t.co/heze69kRDU— MSNBC (@MSNBC) February 23, 2018

Yeah, there is a difference, but we’re talking tenths of a second here. Also, veteran J.R. Salzman seemed confused with this narrative: didn’t two Capitol Police officers stop a shooter from assassinating scores of Republicans in Alexandria as they were practicing for the annual congressional baseball game? Uh, yeah—they did. They confronted the shooter, they engaged him; he turned out to be a Bernie Sanders supporter, and they neutralized the threat. House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-LA) was almost killed in the attack. 

Where did this BS narrative come from that you can’t stop a rifle with a handgun? When has that ever been a thing? Are people’s memories really so short they don’t remember Capital Police stopping a Bernie bro with an SKS shooting at congressman on a baseball field?— J.R. Salzman (@jrsalzman) February 25, 2018

This is the reason why the media will always lose the Second Amendment fight. Millions of Americans own firearms. They know the caliber, they know its capabilities, and they also know what the proper terminology is (i.e. automatic vs. semiautomatic). I’m not talking super technical gunsmith jargon, just basic details about the gun. They know what they have and the media’s pervasive failure to learn what they’re talking about will never allow them to win over Americans they need to change the nature of gun politics. That’s because the alternative floated by the Left is straight up gun confiscation, evisceration of the Second Amendment, and the stripping of American civil rights. That’s also another reason why they’ll never win. We know their game. It’s this type of trash peddled by MSNBC that makes for great entertainment. 


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: Kaslin

A big, slow .45 round will probably knock him on his @$$; a tiny fast .223 might leave him standing unless placement is perfect.


41 posted on 02/26/2018 1:51:20 PM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: WayneS
There is no human alive who could dodge a bullet traveling at either speed.

Are you trying to tell me the Matrix is fake???

42 posted on 02/26/2018 1:51:38 PM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority STILL Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: CodeToad

A false utilitarian ideal.

http://www.saulmontes-bradley.com/the-gun-control-canard/

Great logical reference and great history posted by a great American.


43 posted on 02/26/2018 1:51:57 PM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: Kaslin

poor odonnel has something growing inside his head, and it ain’t good.


44 posted on 02/26/2018 1:51:58 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: miliantnutcase

I’m sorry but a .45 handgun round will stop the bad guy (within short ranges) better than a fast moving .223 any day of the week. .................................. Yrs ago I handled a case involving a shooting at a White Castle in Queens NY. The perp shot the victim 5x with a 1911 while the victim was waiting for his order. The victim lived!


45 posted on 02/26/2018 1:52:01 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Damn Cursor did it again?)
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To: Kaslin

Obviously someone dues not understand but hey lets use this to our advantage.

Lets are teachers with AR15s then. Just like they do in Israel.


46 posted on 02/26/2018 1:52:04 PM PST by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: BeauBo

My 80 year old father in law is quicker than Broward County Sheriffs.


47 posted on 02/26/2018 1:52:17 PM PST by Tamatoa (Fight for our America, Fight for our Country I fought to defend!!!)
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To: OttawaFreeper

I saw a post some where on Twat-er yesterday claim bullets went at the speed of 2,000 per hr!


48 posted on 02/26/2018 1:52:23 PM PST by elephant
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To: OttawaFreeper; Kaslin

Rabble rouser K. Major Prik!


49 posted on 02/26/2018 1:53:00 PM PST by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: Kaslin

This guy is even stupider than Beaver and Butthead. Does MSNBC go out of its way to hire morons?


50 posted on 02/26/2018 1:53:27 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: cranked

and anyone that watches PMSNBC is also a idiot


51 posted on 02/26/2018 1:53:33 PM PST by Kaslin (Politicians are not born; they are excreted -Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur. (Cicero)
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To: Kaslin

How can anyone be this stupid?

On the other hand, Maxine Waters earned a BFA at UCLA. Geez......


52 posted on 02/26/2018 1:54:17 PM PST by buffaloguy (Bond arms Cowbot)
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To: OttawaFreeper

I would be willing to test his theory. I’ll give him an AR and I’ll have my 1911.


53 posted on 02/26/2018 1:54:40 PM PST by Howie66 ("Tone down the tagline please." - Admin Moderator)
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To: Kaslin

54 posted on 02/26/2018 1:54:41 PM PST by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: Kaslin

Yeah, the bullets lose some punch in the traveling.
Better to do what they do in East St Louis,
and insert the bullets manually.


55 posted on 02/26/2018 1:55:27 PM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: NorthMountain
Does MSNBC go out of its way to hire morons?

No, they line up around the block for applications!.................

56 posted on 02/26/2018 1:55:36 PM PST by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: WayneS

If you are going to be dodging bullets, the caliber makes little difference at all. Better to get in all your dodging BEFORE the trigger is pulled.

Despite popular mythology to the contrary, NOBODY outruns the shot.

A .22LR slug, lodged in the right place in the human body, and probably has not exited, can maim, severely disable or even kill the target. A .45 merely makes a bigger hole, and usually the exit hole is larger than the entrance wound.


57 posted on 02/26/2018 1:55:56 PM PST by alloysteel (Coming in dead-stick, high, hot and blind, with the glide angle of a brick. What a rush.....)
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To: Kaslin

Well, here is the new teachers Pet. They’ll get 18 tries with each load. http://www.jgsales.com/-p-80090.html


58 posted on 02/26/2018 1:56:08 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Damn Cursor did it again?)
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To: Kaslin

Larry Larry Larry. A bullet from a handgun is faster than the BCSO. And a turtle is faster than you. What a moron.


59 posted on 02/26/2018 1:56:25 PM PST by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in prison...like yesterday.)
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To: Kaslin

They obviously never heard of Dirty Harry.


60 posted on 02/26/2018 1:58:05 PM PST by Datom (Still runnin' "Against the Wind.")
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