Posted on 02/23/2018 5:52:00 AM PST by Sopater
My uncle John is a retired Los Angeles police officer. He doesnt like to talk about it, but if I buy him enough drinks, hell tell how he captured an armed bad guy on the streets of LA, although my uncle was off-duty and unarmed.
The story involves car chases, foot chases, and a shotgunand the guy holding it wasnt my uncle. Fortunately, everything worked out that day, and a dangerous criminal was off the streets because my uncle risked his lifeoff the clock.
I think about my Uncle John every time I read an all-too-frequent report like this one: The armed school resource officer assigned to protect students at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School took a defensive position outside the school and did not enter the building while the shooter was killing students and teachers inside [all emphasis added] with an AR-15 assault-style rifle, Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel said Thursday.
Most Americans are astonished and outraged to hear this. How can a police officerhow can any personstand around listening to innocent kids being shot?
Most Americans dont know this happens all the time. Remember the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando?
As the largest mass shooting [at that time] in modern U.S. history began to unfold, an off-duty police officer working at a gay nightclub exchanged gunfire with the suspect. But three hours passed before one of the nations most revered SWAT teams stormed the building and brought the attack that left 49 people and the gunman dead to an end.
The ISIS-wannabe was in a shoot-out with a cop before he even got in the building. But for some reason, the cop didnt follow him in. Shots fired inside. Nothing. Then SWAT waited outside, even as shots rang out from inside the building.
Remember Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut? Newtown officers arrived at the school while the gunman was still shooting but did not enter the building for more than five minutes, according to a prosecutors report. The state police conducted a comprehensive review of events that day, but didnt interview any Newtown police officers who were the first responders on the scene. Newtown police didnt do their own after-action report, either. Whats to review, right?
This list goes on and on. Up in Canada during the 1898 massacres at Ecole Polytechnique: As officers stood outside in the snow, [the shooter] moved through the corridors looking for more women to kill. Out west in Columbine, as in Orlando, the cops exchanged fire with the killers, then waited outside as 10 people were gunned down. The police waited outside. Listening.
The sinking feeling we have as we read these stories isnt anger. Its betrayal. Our police are supposed to be better than that. We honor them, we tell our kids to look up to them, we buy them lunch, donate to their charities, we believe in them. Thats because we believe theyve made a commitment to endanger their own lives to protect ours.
Only not everyone is in on the deal, apparently. Over the years as a radio talk host, Ive had a dozen or so callers claiming to be cops who angrily insisted that, as one put it Our first job is to make sure we go home to our families safe at night.
My response was to suggest that, somewhere, there was a mall missing a security guard. For real cops, if someone is going to get shoteither an innocent civilian or themselvestheir job is to take that bullet if they absolutely must.
So why do so many cops stand outside and do nothing while kids are being killed? Well, cowardice, for one thing. No, not all cops are cowards, thats ridiculous. I know from personal experience thats not true. But theyre not all heroes, either.
Ask yourself this: Could you stand outside and listen to high school kids get shot and do nothing? Particularly if you had a gun and the training to use it? Wouldnt every cell in your body scream for you to run inside and kill that SOB?
So why do good cops wait? Training. Its part of a tactical approach currently debated by police departments across the country. Before Columbine, everyone pretty much waited: Set up a perimeter, wait for SWAT, go in with mass firepower and a strategy to reduce civilian casualties. That doesnt work if all the civilians are already dead.
So the strategy changedor was supposed to. But as weve seen again and again, in some places, it hasnt. This brings up the conversation nobody wants to have: Its a lot easier to police good people than bad ones.
Sheriff Scott Israel, whose department had dozens of encounters with the Parkland shooter before the massacre but failed to take action, was on CNN insisting that the solution to gun crime is out of his hands. So he wants to get guns out of yours. Hes demanding restrictions on the gun rights of lawful citizens.
He couldnt figure out how to get the information about the Parkland psycho into the background-check system, which would have stopped an actual bad guy from legally buying a gun. Instead, he wants to stop everyone. Why? Because law-abiding citizens abide by the law. We do what theyre told. Were easy to police. So his failures are apparently on us to solve by giving up our rights.
The same with suburban teenagers posting crazy stuff on the Internet. Israel also wants police to have the power to detain people without a warrant, take them in against their will, and give them a government -authorized evaluation of some kindall based on a police officers opinion that youve posted something disturbing on the web. Hey, there are plenty of angst-ridden teen boys out there to roust, and cops like Israel are more than happy to do it.
Scaring dopey teens and banning AR-15s is easy. Following up on truly dangerous people, building a case about their mental health, getting the evidence a judge needs to actthats hard work. So is going into a building where shots are being fired. Cops arent heroes for doing easy. They are heroesand most of them arefor doing the hard stuff.
I realize this story is from the UK, but........
“Man drowned in shallow lake after firefighters ‘not allowed’ to rescue him
Charity shop worker died in Gosport, Hampshire, after rescuers said they could not enter water for health and safety reasons”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/feb/22/man-drowned-lake-firefighters
Don’t be Silly, that might discourage the next one!
You and I are not being paid to do it, if you(one) can’t do the job, you(one) shouldn’t seek out the job.
Find a job you can do, and don’t work as a fraud.
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“hmmmm.... In other words he ran and hid.”
Yes, it’s really a “different situation” when a cop isn’t the only one with a gun isn’t it. What I think is this guy had a “cushy job” being a School Resource Officer, thinking he’d never have to face real trouble. But then, oopsy, it happened, and he found out that he was, in point of fact, a coward. Either that or the BCSO’s motto is “to protect and to serve, ourselves!”
ill never forget watching Columbine go down...that was the worst...those 2 idiots just wandered around..taking their sweet time killing.
bkmk
I'm sick of this motto that the Cops have to go home safe. When did they stop laying their lives on the line? I've read, seen, watched years of the COP shows, and one or two would breech homes with a reported shooter.
If the initials reports are true, this Cop was a coward or incompetent. I've was only a lowly aviation sailor, but I know I would have made an effort crawling along ground and the looking for the first opportunity to divert his attention from the kids and buy time for backup. If it meant me being killed, so be it. They were children for gawd sake.
I first became disgruntled with some LEOs while watching them pull out of ground zero in the Rodney King LA riots. The city experienced a literal hell from that crappy decision. Then there is Ferguson and Baltimore. Need I go on?
I believe many LE departments have gone soft on their patrol types and rely too much on SWAT. Marines, Army Infantry, Army Delta, SEALs all move forward to the sound of gunfire, if even just one.
What are policeman for nowadays? Writing tickets and domestic disturbances? While watching COPS, we are often amazed how quickly they body slam someone down just because the perp tensed his arm, which is a sub-conscience reaction. Then when down and with large cop knees weighing on the perp's back, they keep yelling, "Stop resisting" because the guy or girl couldn't get their arm out from under their body. Of course there are many times they DO resist and get what hey deserve. However, we see many times the Cops talk some down and resolve the dispute peacefully and maybe with no arrests. Yes, most of the perps are trash and the cops find drugs and weapons. But I do think some Cops over-react. In this case, the Deputy under-reacted. Again, children!
Like President Trump mentioned to a widow, "He knew what he was getting into". Of course, better phrasing would have been, "He knew what he volunteered for has has our upmost respect" The Deputy knew he should put his life on the line to protect our children. He didn't according to reports. We'll see if the above reports are true and any extenuating circumstance that kept the Deputy from moving in.
Then what good is it to arm teachers and staff if there is no reason to believe that they wouldn't take the same course of action?
Either way, if he's too scared to do his job then he is too cowardly to be a police officer.
Why should we expect a middle-aged social studies teacher to confront the shooter if a trained and experienced police officer would not?
And this has what to do with the Florida cop? Was he Somali as well?
Good thing Steve Scalise's security detail was not of this mindset.
Tough shit. They are there to take the bullet for innocent civilians. I highly doubt that Deputy would have been hung out to dry if he made the smallest effort to move in on the shooter. He would be a hero (maybe a dead one) if he just tried to move closer to the shooter. He could have even popped off a couple rounds in the air behind a safe barrier which most likely would have diverted the shooters attention to himself and given more time for backup. What higher calling than to die for our children?
If the reports are true, he will go down as a coward or incompetent. We'll see.
He was assigned to this school for years. Should have been very well trained to take out a shooter. Problem is, many of these cops assigned to schools think of it as a soft pre-retirement job, not a position that you need to be ever vigilant.
Get outta here.....stop being so dam anal.
That coach gave his life unarmed to try to save kids
And hes not the first in these instances
The Austin tower shooter is the first example I recall.....read up on it from unbiased sourcing
The problem is the cops in general and protocol and that includes SWAT or SORT
They dont hurry in either
See Orlando gay club
I have as much or more faith in average grown man as the police in 2018
I remember in our music class we sang a song that paid tribute to him. It was a different time.
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