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Douglas school cop who ‘never went in’ during shooting has resigned
Miama Herald ^ | 2/22/2018 | CHARLES RABIN, CARLI TEPROFF AND DAVID OVALLE

Posted on 02/22/2018 3:48:13 PM PST by MilesVeritatis

One week after a mass shooter Nikolas Cruz murdered 17 people inside Marjory Stoneman Douglas High, Broward's top cop on Thursday revealed a stunning series of failures by the sheriff’s department.

A school campus cop heard the gunfire, rushed to the building but never went inside – instead waiting outside for another four agonizing minutes as Cruz continued the slaughter.

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; coward; donutwatch; florida; flschoolshooting; guard; jackass; nikolascruz; nra; outside; parkland; school; secondamendment; shooting; sro
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To: MilesVeritatis

And no doubt the sheriff and FBI have known this from Day 1 yet allowed all the demonstrations and gun control hysteria and celebrity involvement to go on and percolate.


181 posted on 02/22/2018 7:25:54 PM PST by GnuThere
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To: GnuThere

They WANT you crying and screaming for gun control. They NEED you crying and screaming for gun control.

Did you order that ____________________________? Did you order that ____________________________?

H3ll yes, I ordered it.

(paraphrase)


182 posted on 02/22/2018 7:28:59 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: MilesVeritatis

The Sheriff says they may never disclose the video. WTF?


183 posted on 02/22/2018 7:29:09 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Sounds like Las Vegas.


184 posted on 02/22/2018 7:31:51 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: FourtySeven
Maybe someone who has been in such a situation can judge him rightfully, but I don’t think I can. It’s certainly sad, that’s for sure. I’m sure he feels pretty devastated about it too.

Compare that to the actions of the DC cops during the Scalise shooting.

185 posted on 02/22/2018 7:32:55 PM PST by kabar
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Thinking of teachers and gun training: Wouldn’t it be ironic if teachers with gun training who carried, triggered an interest in shooting among school kids? Maybe leading to school shooting clubs becoming a thing again?


186 posted on 02/22/2018 7:33:24 PM PST by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: kabar

DC SWAT went to Pelosi’s house FIRST before the baseball field. Makes you think they were waiting to see if the guy was going to round 3rd base faster or something.


187 posted on 02/22/2018 7:34:45 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: Mariner

“Certainly dead, nevertheless.”

No, there are a number of strategies that would have a non-zero chance of giving you the first shot.

Try to get behind him. Shoot around a corner down at ground level. Et cetera.


188 posted on 02/22/2018 7:37:00 PM PST by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one party control of communications.)
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To: kabar

They don’t want you to see the deputy trying to get his bullet out of his shirt pocket


189 posted on 02/22/2018 7:37:47 PM PST by tschatski
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To: Fido969
"Had the ROTC students (and coaches) been armed, instead of the police, this incident could have ended sooner with less loss of life."

That's where I've gone. Some of the kids need to self select to carry. It's sad, but it seems to be the only way.

190 posted on 02/22/2018 7:39:04 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: PLMerite

great points and I’m not trying start anything, but I would thijnk the cop had an element of surprise.I


191 posted on 02/22/2018 7:43:31 PM PST by shotgun
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To: MilesVeritatis

We need more people like this to protect kids?


192 posted on 02/22/2018 7:48:13 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: dirtboy
And herein lies the advantage of CCW teachers - they would be defending their school, their kids, themselves. Strong movitivations.

Exactly. They would do so because they had no choice. That cop did have a choice, he chose not to.

193 posted on 02/22/2018 7:49:00 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Mariner
9mm vs Ar-15 Suicide. But at least you would have died valiantly. Certainly dead, nevertheless.

Stupid comment. It is not a battle of guns, but of combatants. Who has the experience and training? Who has the element of surprise? Was Cruz willing to fight to the death? He threw away his gun and pretended to be a student, which is how he escaped from the school. What would have been his response if someone started firing back at him?

We will never know the answers because someone who was trained and paid to defend the school and the children ran away. There is no defending such cowardice. There needs to be consequences. I have no pity for him.

194 posted on 02/22/2018 7:49:51 PM PST by kabar
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To: MilesVeritatis

And they want us to give up our weapons and let the “authorities” protect us? Just proves one of the many reasons why we should never allow them to take our guns away.


195 posted on 02/22/2018 7:50:18 PM PST by boxlunch (Pray for Donald Trump and his administration! Disband the Democrat Media Communist Complex)
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To: Mariner
The US Army would not expect that in a combat zone. A single soldier with a 9mm against another single soldier with an AR-15 or AK-47...to defend children. The Army would tell him to save himself.

Have you ever served in the military? You don't know sh*t from shinola.

196 posted on 02/22/2018 7:52:29 PM PST by kabar
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To: combat_boots

Good idea. There is no shortage of recent historical examples to evaluate for future defenses.

Certainly not enough of that happening. The FIB are dead on their arse in that regard.


197 posted on 02/22/2018 7:53:40 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: dsc

“Certainly dead, nevertheless.”

“No, there are a number of strategies that would have a non-zero chance of giving you the first shot.

Try to get behind him. Shoot around a corner down at ground level. Et cetera.”

And a whole lot more just to distract the shooter would have saved lives. Not a lot of critical thinking by some on this thread.


198 posted on 02/22/2018 7:56:39 PM PST by DAC21
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To: Mariner

Tactics and surprise. These are not 100 yard engagements inside a school. And the cop was paid to do this. The thousand days where nothing happened was not why he was there.


199 posted on 02/22/2018 8:00:46 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: ctdonath2

Good point .....


200 posted on 02/22/2018 8:01:49 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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