Posted on 02/22/2018 1:12:01 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
In the wake of a Florida school shooting that took the lives of 17 people, the New York State Sheriffs’ Association is calling for armed officers in every school in New York.
With more 6,700 public and private schools in the state, the Sheriffs’ Association estimates that the cost would roughly be equal to adding a teacher to each of those schools.
The association is calling on the State Legislature to incorporate the cost into the 2018 state budget.
“This will be an expensive undertaking, but we owe it to our children, and their parents, to provide a safe place for education to take place,” said Wayne County Sheriff Barry Virts, President of the New York State Sheriffs’ Association.
Many school districts already have a School Resource Officer paid for by the district or county government.
“The only way to assure that every student has the protection of an armed officer in close proximity is for the state to provide a reliable funding stream for SROs. Many school districts and local governments are unable to do it due to tax caps and limited funding sources,” Sheriff Virts added.
To read the association’s full statement, click here: https://nysheriffs.org/state_funding_armed_officers/
Just one? In the Florida shooting, the sole Security Resource Officer was at another section of the campus. Speaking of the campus-style high school setup, they should junk it and build one secure building - which can be several stories high, wide around in different directions as long as it’s all one contained building,bullet-proof glass and the kids don’t have to exit to go outside the one-building complex. Every kid should have an id like in government buildings, the kids must swipe their id to get to a different internal section of the inside campus. Plus armed security guards throughout the building. More jobs for security personnel!
Has the honorable Senator (Schumer’s Poodle) Gllibrand weighed in on this? Wasn’t she pro 2nd amendment before having to pander for higher office?
One person with a gun in a school is not enough. A shooter would probably target the officer first before the officer had a clue what was going on.
Comrade Cuomo will fire them.
In our homeschool the students are able to shoot back.
Good thing they’re elected, by county, which probably explains the common sense.
I agree you need to arm the teachers not just a cops. A cop can refuse to do his job a teacher must do their job to defend their own life.
That said this is a mental health issue we need to do reviews of every student and start institutionalizing people again. We do that and we will reduce a lot more crime and suffering than just the occasional school massacre.
I agree you need to arm the teachers not just a cops. A cop can refuse to do his job a teacher must do their job to defend their own life.
That said this is a mental health issue we need to do reviews of every student and start institutionalizing people again. We do that and we will reduce a lot more crime and suffering than just the occasional school massacre.
Israel has this same problem, only with whack-job adult terrorists instead of whack-job teenagers.
They have armed guards at every school entrance, with fully automatic weapons, metal detectors, and all the security of and airport.
Yes, it’s expensive and time consuming, but it works.................
LW?
just think of all those union dues...
Armed guards are wanted and appreciated by: politicians,government employees, CELEBRITIES,sports events and anyone who can afford armed, personal security. Armed guards are BAD for helpless children?? After a shooting MORE guns are called in for help with police; but guns that can prevent shooting are bad? The problem seems to be that teachers would rather be sitting ducks(along with their students) than even think of shooting someone trying to kill them. That’s suicidal cowardice. Schools are entrusted with the protection of children-if those who run them and work in them are too cowardly to adequately protect them then we need different thinking administrators and teachers.
I hope this is sarcasm, but these days its hard to tell.
No. I’m serious. It’s the cost of 3 more teachers per school building and the hardening of the schools.
I’m sorry, i don’t want my kid going to a school with a metal fence, armed guards, and 24 hour security. The odds of your kid getting shot at school are statistically nil.
When active duty in the army, I went through gate guards onto a highly monitored compound. I never really thought about it. Even in a war zone with enhanced guards, checks, etc. it wasn’t an issue. It just made sense.
The Israeli schools from one perspective:
https://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/rpt/2013-R-0119.htm
What it boils down to for me is shutting down access to the schools, so any shooters are engaged outside and not inside.
Sorry, but thats not the world I want to live in. Going through metal gates, armed guards and metal detectors to go to school? For a risk that is statistically infinitesimal?
“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
Still applicable 250 years later.
First, I agree you with about the mathematical odds being low for any given school to be attacked. There are roughly 150k public schools in the USA and in the last decade no more than 20 have been attacked. So, the percentage is 20 divided by 10x150k. That’s about 1 out of 75000. So the chances of my school being hit are remote if conditions stay the same.
As far as freedom at school, I disagree with you. I never remember school being about freedom. I remember being strictly regimented, structured, and directed. I never have thought of it as anything other than a time of fairly rigid discipline.
So, I don’t see school as teaching a lesson about security versus freedom. School wasn’t about freedom.
As I already stated, being in a guarded, cordoned area never made me feel less free. In fact, knowing people wanted to hurt us and also knowing guards were out and our compound intact made me more free to accomplish the mission.
That’s why colonial forts had walls.
So, do I go with the odds or do I harden the schools because it’s a workable way to keep potential bad guys outside the compound?
I prefer the hardening. The cost is irrelevant to me. I’d rather they be hardened than not. Then I’m sure I’ve done my due diligence.
“The cost is irrelevant to me.” Yeah, i’m sure it is.
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