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Sen. Pat Roberts: Nobody under 21 should have an AR-15 [GOPe]
Wichita Eagle ^ | Jonathan Shorman

Posted on 02/22/2018 12:42:13 PM PST by Alter Kaker

TOPEKA Sen. Pat Roberts supports placing an age restriction on the rifle that was used in a Florida school shooting where 17 people died.

The Kansas Republican said he believes Congress is ready to act and expects President Donald Trump to take the lead.

"This is an opportunity, if you look at these youngsters who are so emotionally tied in to this grief of losing their friends — but it’s more than gun control. But I think we’re ready as a Congress to actually pass something and I think it’s going to be better background checks. Certainly nobody under 21 should have an AR-15," Roberts told reporters at the Kansas Statehouse.

"I don’t know why anybody would want an AR-15 unless they’re going to take one out on the shooting range."

The call for an age restriction may place Roberts in tension with the National Rifle Association.

(Excerpt) Read more at kansas.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Florida; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; ar15; banglist; dinosaur; fascism; feminism; florida; kansas; nra; parkland; patroberts; secondamendment; topeka; uniparty; yankee
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To: Alter Kaker

Fine if you are not mature enough at 21 to own a semi auto rifle then you are not mature enough to vote. Raise the age of both to 21 and I won’t object.


121 posted on 02/22/2018 4:21:12 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Alter Kaker

At 18 your old enough to sign loan papers a the bank, buy a car, buy a house, mary without your parents consent, vote, be tried in court as an adult, get security clearances, becme a police officer, run for office and join the armed forces and fight and die for our naion.

But you can’t buy a beer or a pack of cigarettes nor an AR-15?


122 posted on 02/22/2018 4:38:51 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Alter Kaker

If, as a group, those from age 18 up to age 21 are too emotionally unstable to be able to own a simple semi-automatic rifle, then they are also too unstable to be voting for the people who run this country.

Not my view, if course, but his logic. How it squares with 18-year-olds using full autos, grenades, rockets, artillery, tanks, etc., I can’t figure out.


123 posted on 02/22/2018 8:41:55 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Alter Kaker

If, as a group, those from age 18 up to age 21 are too emotionally unstable to be able to own a simple semi-automatic rifle, then they are also too unstable to be voting for the people who run this country.

Not my view, if course, but his logic. How it squares with 18-year-olds using full autos, grenades, rockets, artillery, tanks, etc., I can’t figure out.


124 posted on 02/22/2018 8:42:33 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: dsc

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If its “bashing,” it applies to all of christianity.

Pastors are among the top contenders in the area of sexual peccadillos.
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125 posted on 02/23/2018 10:44:34 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

“Pastors are among the top contenders in the area of sexual peccadillos.”

So I understand, but Protestant, Catholic, or Jewish, I want the problem addressed without any more public orgies of recrimination that serve only to damage our relationship with God.


126 posted on 02/23/2018 11:39:03 AM PST by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one party control of communications.)
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To: Ancesthntr

“...then they are also too unstable to be voting for the people who run this country. Not my view, if course...”

It is my view. There may be some in that age group who are ready to vote, but not enough to compensate for the great mass of dumb-asses.


127 posted on 02/23/2018 11:41:50 AM PST by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one party control of communications.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Fine, then no one under 21 should be able to vote

If they are too young to be trusted with firearms, they are too young to be trusted with the vote. The latter does way more damage.
128 posted on 02/23/2018 11:45:31 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: dsc

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Sin kept hidden is sin not confessed, thus not forgiven.


129 posted on 02/23/2018 12:07:27 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: HamiltonJay

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Amen!


130 posted on 02/23/2018 12:07:58 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Alter Kaker

How ignorant. There should be one age, just one age when one is considered an adult.

If you can fight and die for your country, you are an adult with full rights.

If you are an 18 year old woman living alone, you have the right to fully defend yourself as any other adult.


131 posted on 02/23/2018 12:10:08 PM PST by Kalamata (Meat hooks for Tyrants)
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To: editor-surveyor

“Sin kept hidden is sin not confessed, thus not forgiven.”

1. Bad theology. God forgives whom He will.

2. False dichotomy: our choices are not between sweeping it under the carpet and engaging in hysterical breast-beating. There is a whole range of options in between those extremes.


132 posted on 02/23/2018 12:31:51 PM PST by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one party control of communications.)
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To: dsc

Read John’s first epistle.

Do you think he lied?


133 posted on 02/23/2018 12:35:57 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Alter Kaker

Do you support changing the minimum enlistment age, too, Senator?


134 posted on 02/23/2018 12:44:41 PM PST by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: fella

You can enlist at 17, with parental consent. So you can serve your nation, fight for nation, risk death for your nation, but you shouldn’t be allowed to possess a legally obtained firearm.

Senator, I’d like to see you explain that position to an audience of young recruits.


135 posted on 02/23/2018 12:47:38 PM PST by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: editor-surveyor

“Do you think he lied?”

No. However, and speaking again without knowing you, it is my experience that many people read the Scriptures and misunderstand them.

These are usually people who think, bizarrely, that everybody who reads the Scriptures always understands them correctly.

Jim Morrison said, “You cannot petition the Lord with prayer.” He was wrong about that. But I am not wrong when I say that mere mortals cannot reliably understand the Scriptures without the aid of the Holy Spirit.

The people who think, bizarrely, that everybody who reads the Scriptures always understands them correctly, also seem to believe that the Holy Spirit is there, helping them, every time they open up a Bible.

In the same amplified voice that Jim Morrison used, “The Holy Spirit is not present, guiding you, every time you open up your Bible.” Not, not, not.

What we humans do better than anything else in the world is get things wrong. So frequently that one might even say “all the time.” That goes for understanding what God has told us as much as it does for everything else.

That is why we should pay heed to the exegesis of history’s holiest and wisest men, which is something that many Christians, for reasons bogus and downright stupid, refuse to do.


136 posted on 02/23/2018 1:36:39 PM PST by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one party control of communications.)
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To: dsc
Jim Morrison said, “You cannot petition the Lord with prayer.” He was wrong about that.

Yeah, but he was The Lizard King.

137 posted on 02/23/2018 1:38:23 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

“Yeah, but he was The Lizard King.”

And now he’s the lizard king in Hell.

My ring tone is “Moonlight Drive,” and I love the Doors, but this life is finite.


138 posted on 02/23/2018 1:54:24 PM PST by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one party control of communications.)
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To: Alter Kaker

A Democrat with a Rifle isn’t as dangerous as a Democrat with a Voter ID Card.


139 posted on 02/23/2018 1:55:36 PM PST by Kickass Conservative ( An Armed Society is a Polite Society. An Unarmed Society is North Korea.)
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To: Alter Kaker

I was watching a show on TV last night about the Tuskegee Airmen. The P-51 Mustang Flight Instructor was 21 Years Old.


140 posted on 02/23/2018 2:00:35 PM PST by Kickass Conservative ( An Armed Society is a Polite Society. An Unarmed Society is North Korea.)
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