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The statistical cost of providing new armed security for public schools
American Thinker ^ | 02/22/2018 | Andrew Solomon

Posted on 02/22/2018 9:23:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Surprisingly, no one has done this yet, so I did some Googling. Using statistics available from five years ago, there are 98,000 public elementary schools in the United States. There are an additional 26,400 public secondary (high) schools also. This does not include private schools or charter schools (however, one might want to classify those). For now, I will leave private schools out.

If you were to have at least two armed guards per school (some of these schools are quite large), and you account for population growth (these stats are five years old), you would get a new overnight federal employee head count higher than 250,000. That's five modest-sized cities.

If you pay them around $36,000 per year in salary, that yields a new annual cost of $9 billion. If you add in medical, dental, and pension, plus all the paid holidays, sick leave, and other miscellaneous time off, that raises your cost another $4 billion each year for a grand total of $13 billion per year.

There have been 138 shooting deaths since Sandy Hook in 2012, or 11.5 per year. Those shot but not killed were around 438, or 73. Depending on which math one chooses to use, if the new guard salaries remain constant (they won't) the ratio to procure school security per student death is $1.13 billion per child lost. The cost ratio is reduced to $178 million per kid shot, since there are more of those.

I should mention that the reporting on "school shooting" incidents is murky. Some of these are not mass school shootings. Some are accidental discharges by armed security already or police responding to a call. Some are from arguments in parking lots between grown men. Who knows how to factor that in,

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armedguards; schools; security; shootings
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1 posted on 02/22/2018 9:23:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
The cost ratio is reduced to $178 million per kid shot, since there are more of those.

Get government out of education.

2 posted on 02/22/2018 9:27:51 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: SeekAndFind

How much is your child worth?


3 posted on 02/22/2018 9:31:28 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: SeekAndFind

Could public schools come up with at least two volunteers from staff, including support staff,who would be willing to get trained and carry to protect the kids?
If not, it’s truly sad and pathetic.


4 posted on 02/22/2018 9:32:02 AM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: SeekAndFind

Could public schools come up with at least two volunteers from staff, including support staff,who would be willing to get trained and carry to protect the kids?
If not, it’s truly sad and pathetic.


5 posted on 02/22/2018 9:32:04 AM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: ealgeone
How much is your child worth?

Apparently enough to build awesome sports stadiums with artificial turf.

6 posted on 02/22/2018 9:34:31 AM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Donald J Trump 45th President of the United States !MAGA)
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To: SeekAndFind

Florida was the first state to implement shall-issue CCW, and the crime rate plummeted when they did.

There are plenty of teachers with CCW permits already. They don’t have to hire armed guards. Just allow the teachers with CCW permits to carry.

That doesn’t cost a penny.


7 posted on 02/22/2018 9:35:06 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Excellent point! We’ll drop thousands if not millions on sports.


8 posted on 02/22/2018 9:35:06 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: SeekAndFind

In fairness, should we also factor in the number of school shootings that were avoided by intervention before the perp got the school grounds, or existing procedures that prevented an incident on the grounds?

I state this due to an incident in Milford MA where an officer stopped a suspicious student, frisked backpack, and found a loaded handgun with other ammo. Note this security was NOT on campus, but sharp eyes and quick thinking by the school officials probably prevented an incident.

BTW: Would you believe the MA Supreme Court ruled the ‘search’ was illegal? They did. But at least the cop interceded.


9 posted on 02/22/2018 9:35:34 AM PST by jimjohn (2nd American Civil War: ongoing since January 20, 2017.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Wrong statistic. Needs to estimate the cost per student/teacher/administrator not shot, which is to divide the amount calculated by the total number of children and teachers and administration on all school sites, including colleges. That would be, say, very very roughly 9 million.

So the cost per student is perhaps about one thousand dollars per student attending any school physical plant.

Eh?

10 posted on 02/22/2018 9:36:20 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: SeekAndFind

Every school and its district has low or marginally performing admins and “teachers”

Clean house of them and you have MORE than enough for armed security, unarmed security, supplies, technology, books, equipment, furniture, heat/cool, competent nonpolitical REAL teachers, whatever

And gee, students can go back to being students Maybe they might actually learn something useful again


11 posted on 02/22/2018 9:36:50 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Hey brainwashed students . . . where's your "outrage" @FBI? DO SOMETHING!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

What is the statistical cost of demolishing and rebuilding these schools after each incident?

Why are you pretending to assign a value to human life?


12 posted on 02/22/2018 9:37:48 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: ealgeone

Why are we talking about stadiums? We could argue about that all night, to the effect of we spend “x” amount of money on something which someone else thinks we shouldn’t spend public money on. Such a discussion would hardly be limited to stadiums. Then we end up arguing about budget priorities and taxes instead of what the original subject was.


13 posted on 02/22/2018 9:40:19 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: ealgeone

Great question. We hire minimum wage bus drivers to drive them around. That seems to work fine.


14 posted on 02/22/2018 9:40:49 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: SeekAndFind

The ban all guns crowd want metal detectors. How much are they per school include amortization. And, who monitors the detectors? The school secretary? No, a guard with a gun of course.


15 posted on 02/22/2018 9:42:57 AM PST by mistfree (It's a very uncreative man who can't think of more than one way to spell a word.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Have you researched the fact the federal funding already underwrites armed security in 67% of some schools?
Old article but interesting
https://ccjs.umd.edu/sites/ccjs.umd.edu/files/pubs/Police%20Officers%20in%20Schools-Effects%20on%20School%20Crime%20and%20the%20Processing%20of%20Offending%20Behaviors.pdf
Find me an inner city or minority- majority school that does not already have police or armed security in the building? They do here in DC and PG County

Ironically “ children of color” are probably safer in school guarded by cops on site than the white liberal upper middle class suburbanites who make their schools “ gun free zones”

Of course people of color protest the fact that when cops patrol their schools the number of kids arrested for crime goes up which is “ rasist”


16 posted on 02/22/2018 9:44:51 AM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: Sasparilla

> Could public schools come up with at least two volunteers from staff, including support staff,who would be willing to get trained and carry to protect the kids? <

I worked in an urban high school for many years. Liberal democrats controlled the city, the school district, and the union.

But there were plenty of conservatives among the teachers. We had perhaps 100 teachers/paraprofessionals on staff. I guarantee you that you’d get not two, but twenty or more volunteers. And these wouldn’t be Barney Fife types. You’d be getting serious ex-military and NRA folks.


17 posted on 02/22/2018 9:45:33 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Now the left has another thing to keep guards out of schools, it will cost too much.

Someone said during Clinton’s reign that Clinton would accept a certain number to be be killed to outlaw guns. Don’t know if the statement was about children though but with all the backlash from the left on any solution I expect they think this way.


18 posted on 02/22/2018 9:45:47 AM PST by JayAr36 (Washinton DC, District of Corruption proven daily)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Them women sexual predator cougar teachers would also be able to do more cougaring with a gun strapped on!

No thanks. Properly vetted only.


19 posted on 02/22/2018 9:46:24 AM PST by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancakes, just as every culture has its noodle.)
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To: SeekAndFind

...........this makes no sense. There will be, nearly always, teachers on premises that don’t mind taking on the responsibility of carrying a pistol on their belt all day and being trained particularly if there is extra pay involved.

In those cases where there was not a school teacher willing to step up and protect the children, the individual school district should be required to hire somebody. Simple as that! The kids MUST have protection from the maniacs! Period!

Next step. Close Government Schools! Fire all NEA teachers.


20 posted on 02/22/2018 9:47:10 AM PST by Cen-Tejas
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