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1 posted on 02/22/2018 9:23:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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The cost ratio is reduced to $178 million per kid shot, since there are more of those.

Get government out of education.

2 posted on 02/22/2018 9:27:51 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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How much is your child worth?


3 posted on 02/22/2018 9:31:28 AM PST by ealgeone
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Could public schools come up with at least two volunteers from staff, including support staff,who would be willing to get trained and carry to protect the kids?
If not, it’s truly sad and pathetic.


4 posted on 02/22/2018 9:32:02 AM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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Could public schools come up with at least two volunteers from staff, including support staff,who would be willing to get trained and carry to protect the kids?
If not, it’s truly sad and pathetic.


5 posted on 02/22/2018 9:32:04 AM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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Florida was the first state to implement shall-issue CCW, and the crime rate plummeted when they did.

There are plenty of teachers with CCW permits already. They don’t have to hire armed guards. Just allow the teachers with CCW permits to carry.

That doesn’t cost a penny.


7 posted on 02/22/2018 9:35:06 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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In fairness, should we also factor in the number of school shootings that were avoided by intervention before the perp got the school grounds, or existing procedures that prevented an incident on the grounds?

I state this due to an incident in Milford MA where an officer stopped a suspicious student, frisked backpack, and found a loaded handgun with other ammo. Note this security was NOT on campus, but sharp eyes and quick thinking by the school officials probably prevented an incident.

BTW: Would you believe the MA Supreme Court ruled the ‘search’ was illegal? They did. But at least the cop interceded.


9 posted on 02/22/2018 9:35:34 AM PST by jimjohn (2nd American Civil War: ongoing since January 20, 2017.)
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Wrong statistic. Needs to estimate the cost per student/teacher/administrator not shot, which is to divide the amount calculated by the total number of children and teachers and administration on all school sites, including colleges. That would be, say, very very roughly 9 million.

So the cost per student is perhaps about one thousand dollars per student attending any school physical plant.

Eh?

10 posted on 02/22/2018 9:36:20 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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Every school and its district has low or marginally performing admins and “teachers”

Clean house of them and you have MORE than enough for armed security, unarmed security, supplies, technology, books, equipment, furniture, heat/cool, competent nonpolitical REAL teachers, whatever

And gee, students can go back to being students Maybe they might actually learn something useful again


11 posted on 02/22/2018 9:36:50 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Hey brainwashed students . . . where's your "outrage" @FBI? DO SOMETHING!!)
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What is the statistical cost of demolishing and rebuilding these schools after each incident?

Why are you pretending to assign a value to human life?


12 posted on 02/22/2018 9:37:48 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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The ban all guns crowd want metal detectors. How much are they per school include amortization. And, who monitors the detectors? The school secretary? No, a guard with a gun of course.


15 posted on 02/22/2018 9:42:57 AM PST by mistfree (It's a very uncreative man who can't think of more than one way to spell a word.)
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Have you researched the fact the federal funding already underwrites armed security in 67% of some schools?
Old article but interesting
https://ccjs.umd.edu/sites/ccjs.umd.edu/files/pubs/Police%20Officers%20in%20Schools-Effects%20on%20School%20Crime%20and%20the%20Processing%20of%20Offending%20Behaviors.pdf
Find me an inner city or minority- majority school that does not already have police or armed security in the building? They do here in DC and PG County

Ironically “ children of color” are probably safer in school guarded by cops on site than the white liberal upper middle class suburbanites who make their schools “ gun free zones”

Of course people of color protest the fact that when cops patrol their schools the number of kids arrested for crime goes up which is “ rasist”


16 posted on 02/22/2018 9:44:51 AM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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Now the left has another thing to keep guards out of schools, it will cost too much.

Someone said during Clinton’s reign that Clinton would accept a certain number to be be killed to outlaw guns. Don’t know if the statement was about children though but with all the backlash from the left on any solution I expect they think this way.


18 posted on 02/22/2018 9:45:47 AM PST by JayAr36 (Washinton DC, District of Corruption proven daily)
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...........this makes no sense. There will be, nearly always, teachers on premises that don’t mind taking on the responsibility of carrying a pistol on their belt all day and being trained particularly if there is extra pay involved.

In those cases where there was not a school teacher willing to step up and protect the children, the individual school district should be required to hire somebody. Simple as that! The kids MUST have protection from the maniacs! Period!

Next step. Close Government Schools! Fire all NEA teachers.


20 posted on 02/22/2018 9:47:10 AM PST by Cen-Tejas
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Why not identify the teachers who are prior military/police, allow them to carry? Or identify those who want to learn and allow them to carry.


21 posted on 02/22/2018 9:48:28 AM PST by ealgeone
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If I give my kids to a government institution for the day, they had better guarantee their security. We provide more security at various state and federal buildings than we do at schools. I don’t care how much it costs, schools need to become like the TSA, just like we’ve been doing at inner city schools for decades. Turn the soft target, gun free zone into a well secured hard one just like the Israeli’s. The school systems have the money, they’ve simply chosen to spend it on building massive bureaucracies filled with paper pushers. It’s time for the school administrations to become smaller and the schools to become safer.


22 posted on 02/22/2018 9:51:13 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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Our teachers are already required to seek continuing education credits paid for with our tax dollars. Require courses be taken by these teachers to fulfill those credits that are directed toward responsible gun use and threat mitigation. Arm ... the ... teachers ... now !


27 posted on 02/22/2018 9:54:03 AM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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Arm the teachers,


31 posted on 02/22/2018 9:56:08 AM PST by bobrlbob
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Just make military experience the ONLY requirement to have ANY job in a school, then fire anyone without it, quickly hire some unemployed vets to take over, and tell those “teachers” destroying our country by brainwashing our kids with their liberal dogma that they only way they get back to their jobs is if they can make it through boot camp.


32 posted on 02/22/2018 9:56:44 AM PST by zencycler
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Ok. Just tell me how much of my productivity will need to be confiscated so no American ever has to cry.

Call me when it’s over!


34 posted on 02/22/2018 9:57:41 AM PST by The Toll
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That’s ridiculous. All that’s necessary is to allow properly qualified teachers who have CCW permits to carry on school premises. Jewelry stores have armed security in most cases because the owners and employees carry. Same thing for gun ranges. I’ve been to many and there are no regular armed guards. Rather, the employees and owners just carry and security takes of itself. Same thing would happen with schools.


49 posted on 02/22/2018 10:10:00 AM PST by libstripper
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