Where Is the Democratic Outrage Over Spying on Americans?

Townhall.com ^ | February 17, 2018 | Thomas J. Farnan

[Kaslin]

Under the Constitution, there are three branches of government. The FBI is not one of them. Instead, the FBI was created to assist the president in his job to enforce laws. Members of the FBI are called “agents” because of their agency relationship with the president.

During World War II and then the Red Scare, the FBI's mission expanded to gather intelligence against spies. Here, too, the FBI was assisting the Commander in Chief. Even the word “intelligence” connotes this fact. The purpose was to help the president act intelligently against domestic threats.

The FBI’s domestic intelligence gathering function caused understandable discomfort on the left. In 1970s apocrypha, President Nixon couldn’t wait to get the goods on undesirables like the Smothers Brothers. Or so we were told by the Smothers Brothers, back when the FBI's mission creep cast it as the Gestapo.

In response to Nixon’s perceived overreach, liberal Idaho (before those words were an oxymoron) Senator Frank Church set up a commission to investigate domestic surveillance abuses. Technology, by then, permitted federal agencies to capture huge amounts of wire communications without disclosing their eavesdropping to Americans who were being surveilled.

Senator Church stated his concerns on an episode of Meet the Press:

“If this government ever became a tyrant, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny [against those who] combine together in resistance to the government.”

The result of Senator Church’s work was the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA). It provided that the FBI could not use its technological capacity to secretly gather intelligence against an American without first going to court with credible evidence that the citizen was a spy.

There were protections.

The statute required rigorous proof. Each warrant would only last for a specified 90-day term and had to be renewed based on the same demanding standard under which it was first granted.

There were minimization procedures. The identities of persons who were not spies but whose thoughts and words were captured in the surveillance could not be unmasked, generally, unless national security depended on it.

Eventually, as Senator Church had predicted, there did arise in America an effort to combine together in resistance to the government and elect an outsider who promised to drain the swamp.

How did FISA perform? Here are the early returns.

The House Intelligence Committee’s Nunes Memo, and the Senate’s Graham-Grassley referral, confirm that a piece of salacious and unverified opposition research – the Steele dossier – was presented to the FISA court for a warrant to obtain private communications relating to Carter Page’s involvement in the Trump campaign.

The Democrats have issued a response to the Nunes Memo that has not yet been made public. But unless it says the unverified dossier was not used to get a FISA warrant, it misses the point.

If Hillary Clinton’s opposition research was used to get a FISA warrant on an opponent’s campaign, the statute was abused. More, if a phony FISA proceeding provided support for the Russian collusion narrative that led to the appointment of an intrusive special counsel, then we are in Senator Frank Church “tyranny” territory.

It is starting to look that way, too.

This week it was learned that FBI Director James Comey attended a meeting before Trump’s inauguration, during which President Obama posited that “we cannot share information fully as it relates to Russia” with the new president.

Comey had an obligation to say, “Mr. President, with all due respect, the FBI gathers intelligence for the president, and once you’re out the door and the new guy is in here, I have an obligation to share everything with him, even embarrassing facts that tend to show we were using the FBI to improperly surveil his campaign.”

Instead, Comey – who was up to his neck in the FISA dirty trick – apparently saluted and said, “Yes sir.” When Trump took office, information meant to assist him in making intelligent decisions as Commander in Chief was kept from him. Comey remained Obama’s agent, and was eventually fired for his disloyalty.

There has been an endless investigation, and nothing has been connected to Trump. Other than indicting some internet trolls yesterday on the theory that their Facebook and Twitter comments threaten our democracy, the special counsel has rolled snake eyes on the Russian interference front. He is leaving no stone unturned, though, and reserves the right to indict “Take This IQ Test” scammers for stealing the election.

Perhaps the most amazing thing about this story is the lack of outrage. The great conceit of the left is that they are willing to stand for principle even on behalf of unpopular actors. Here, they have thrown principle out the window because they don't like Trump. That's messed up.

In the name of Frank Church, in the name of liberal Idaho, in the name of the Smothers Brothers, the country needs your outrage over this, Democrats.

[palmer]

That's a good article as far as it goes. Now we have Mueller who just indicted 12 bottles of Russian dressing and a ham sandwich for trolling. Previously he indicted Manafort for some old infraction, Papadop for "lying" where Papadop said some Russian was a "nothing" and didn't remember the date that he met some other Russian. And of course Flynn who served his country well.

Now what? Does Mueller have anything else? Doesn't seem likely. The media bleating about he "bombshell" Russian indictments will fade with more good news about the economy. Trump just needs to keep doing what he is doing.

[jeffc]

Where’s the Dem outrage? We’ll see it if there is ever a rumor of Trump spying on Americans....

[AustinBill]

The Democrat party of Frank Church, Sam Nunn, and JFK, is long gone. It's been radicalized and taken over by outright Marxists. It's why the CPUSA now openly supports Democrats rather than bothering to run Gus Hall clones every four years. Their work is basically done.

[FreeReign]

Where Is the Democratic Outrage Over Spying on Americans?

Apparently there are more than Democrats who aren't outraged.

We have an acting AG, DAG Rosenstein, who mislead the FISC and who spied on his own president.

And he's currently in charge at the DOJ of all of the swamp investigations.

[Rapscallion]

The Russian action was a covert act of war. The Russian leader had guilty knowledge. He may have directed the acts.

Putin owes America and Trump a public apology. Until that happens Trump should place US military forces at DEFCON 3 and keep it there until Russia apologizes.

[Behind the Blue Wall]

Barely scratches the surface but yeah aside from a few errant voices here and there, the Left is conspicuously silent in the face of these egregious abuses of power.

[Truthoverpower]

Democratic types today have NO principles at all
NO compunction on openly lying and cheating to win at all costs
It’s decidedly UNAMERICAN and there will be a price to pay for them
In my view. Very soon
Violence is NOT their friend or ANYONES friend

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

And of course Flynn who served his country well.

The judge - Emmet G. Sullivan - who handled the case in which Senator Stevens (R, AK) was wrongly convicted was infuriated when he found that he was unable effectively to discipline the prosecutors who violated their ethical obligation to inform the defense of any exculpatory evidence in their possession. He has since been an advocate of universal judicial use of a warning putting prosecutors on notice before any trial that they have to do it - or will be in a world of legal hurt. I posted a summary of his dead-tree Wall Street Journal article promoting that warning, on FR some months ago.

Why does that matter? After the judge who accepted Flynn’s guilty plea was recused, he was replaced - by none other than Emmet G. Sullivan. And Judge Sullivan is putting the screws to Mueller to reveal all exculpatory evidence to him. Mueller’s Flynn conviction is toast. And Mueller better hope that nothing worse come of it.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/02/mueller_is_losing_flynn_so_he_indicts_russians.html

[Chickensoup]

So the Legal Bars in the wrongdoing prosecutors’ states cannot be petitioned to remove the law licenses of the offending prosecutors??

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

Judge Sullivan was shocked to find that he couldn’t punish the prosecutor as he deserved. His article in the Wall Street Journal advocates that every judge should issue the necessary warning which, if violated, would allow the judge to put the prosecutor in a place he didn’t want to be.

[New Jersey Realist]

There are no agents at the FBI - they call themselves SPECIAL agents now. Ditto for all federal enforcement agencies.

I have to ask what is so special about them? If you don’t refer to them as “special” agent do they run home crying to their mommies?

[Bellflower]

Where Is the Democratic Outrage Over Spying on Americans

This is a very good question.

[thirst4truth]

The prosecutors in the Bundy family case were charged with the same violation, not sharing all exculpatory evidence. Obama appointed judge declared a mistrial, due to misconduct on the prosecutors part.

The Bundy family will never have to face those bogus charges again. Are the prosecutors walking free, yes just like the ones who went after Ted Stevens.