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Parkland Florida Spree Killer Used Smith & Wesson AR15, Mass Media Demonization Continues
The Truth About Guns ^ | 02/16/18 | Robert Farago

Posted on 02/16/2018 8:10:52 AM PST by Simon Green

Last night, Jonathon Fishman of the Broward County Sheriff’s Department revealed that mass murderer Nikolas Cruz used a Smith & Wesson AR15 semi-automatic rifle to kill 17 students at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.American Outdoor Brands, the holding company that owns the Smith & Wesson brand, has not commented on the revelation. Nor should we expect a comment to be forthcoming. What we can expect is the ongoing demonization of America’s most popular rifle platform as a “high powered” firearm, a “weapon of war” whose sole purpose is taking as much innocent life as quickly as possible. Like this:

In Florida, an AR-15 Is Easier to Buy Than a Handgun – New York Times

But other features that make the AR-15 so deadly on the battlefield remain. It is light, easy to hold and easy to fire, with a limited recoil. Bullets fly out of the muzzle more than twice as fast as most handgun rounds.

Equally important for a gunman looking to do a lot of damage in a hurry: AR-15-style weapons are fed with box magazines that can be swapped out quickly. The standard magazine holds 30 rounds. Equipped in this way, a gunman can fire more than a hundred rounds in minutes.

Here’s What You Need To Know About The Weapons Of War Used In Mass Shootings – Huffington Post

But the very same traits that have made them the preferred weapon for military personnel and sport shooters are what make them a natural choice for those who want to inflict senseless violence with maximum casualties.

It now seems the toll of mass killers is limited only by their choice of weapon, their training and their target. The political response to that terrifying reality has been to hope that people will choose not to kill. That plan clearly isn’t working.

It’s time to bring back the assault weapons ban, gun violence experts say – Washington Post

The killers in recent incidents like Las Vegas, Orlando and Sutherland Springs were each able to walk into a gun shop in the days and months before their attacks, and legally purchase their assault weapons and magazines after passing a standard background check. Under an assault weapons ban, that wouldn’t be possible . . .

In 2016 the New York Times asked 32 gun policy experts to rate the effectiveness of a variety of policy changes to prevent mass shootings. The roster of experts included violence prevention researchers like Harvard’s David Hemenway, as well as more ideologically driven gun rights advocates like John Lott.

On a scale of effectiveness ranging from 1 (not effective) to 10 (highly effective), the expert panel gave an average score of 6.8 to both an assault weapons ban and a ban on high-capacity magazines, the highest ratings among the nearly 30 policies surveyed.

And so on . . .


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; nicolascruz
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1 posted on 02/16/2018 8:10:52 AM PST by Simon Green
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To: Simon Green

Smith and Wesson? Sure is a good thing he didn’t buy a Bushmaster. Last I heard those were super-lethal.


2 posted on 02/16/2018 8:14:53 AM PST by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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To: Simon Green

Tough to have a grown up discussion when the Left refuses to acknowledge facts.


3 posted on 02/16/2018 8:17:47 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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I don’t care how many idiot killers the Democrats send out.

After the Democrats used armored vehicles to kill children at Waco, I’ll never support gun control.

One idiot Democrat Killer is a problem.

Millions of Democrat killers is the apocalypse.


4 posted on 02/16/2018 8:18:18 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: cyclotic
I just saw Senator Nelson getting some face time on the news and he was running off the mouth about these evil guns, and today...he was laying it to the "high velocity" ammunition that Cruz got hold of.

I really can't believe that these fools are wrong/misinformed as consistently as they are.

5 posted on 02/16/2018 8:20:47 AM PST by skimbell
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a gunman can fire more than a hundred rounds in minutes

Unless someone is shooting back.

6 posted on 02/16/2018 8:21:00 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: Simon Green

What caliber?


7 posted on 02/16/2018 8:22:46 AM PST by VietVet876
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I’m wondering what more is possible in the case of madmen who haven’t yet been found to be madmen. It was tragedy that Cruz went and got this gun while blind with rage.

But do we need to be blind too. I don’t know how it would sit with 2A purists to have a law requiring a psych test of people buying sufficiently large weapons. To try to see if they are in a rage. And if they are, to forbid the sale and refer the person to a choice of psychological or spiritual counseling. Now even this could go wrong — any law of mankind can — but the horse of philosopher kingship is already well out of the courts’ barn. Staying ahead of the curve to mitigate court decree harms may be the best we can do in the short run.


8 posted on 02/16/2018 8:25:10 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: grobdriver

Good point


9 posted on 02/16/2018 8:25:53 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: skimbell

Don’t mock even these fools too much, for they are state fools and possess great weapons of mischief on their own.


10 posted on 02/16/2018 8:28:22 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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Even liberals I know, realize that gun control isn’t the problem.

The only people that clamor for gun control, are the ones that would like to point a gun AT US.


11 posted on 02/16/2018 8:29:34 AM PST by Professional
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It’s noticeable that these idiots never mention the “caliber” of these firearms. It’s: (1) because they do to know, or (2) to say that it fires a .223 projectile just mitigates their “high caliber” argument.

It’s okay to take away mentally ill people’s firearms, but put them back in confined care to protect society from baseball bat attack, or knife attack. etc.


12 posted on 02/16/2018 8:29:59 AM PST by Afterguard (Deplorable me!)
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Well what do you mean by gun control.

Even if it is to hit what ought to be hit, it also has to be to not hit what ought not to be hit.

What do we do with madmen without yet turning into a “psychiatric state”? If “conservatives” will not thread this needle wisely, “liberals” will do it perhaps unwisely.


13 posted on 02/16/2018 8:37:06 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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Another rant... PING


14 posted on 02/16/2018 8:39:19 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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AR-15. Looked to be the same weapon that those oppressors-with-badges carried as they ran to the sound of gunfire.


15 posted on 02/16/2018 8:46:45 AM PST by Jumpmaster (Defund the left!)
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To: VietVet876
What caliber?<<<

Good question!..I think I heard .22 cal
Not that .22 cant be lethal but Id like to learn more....22 Magnum or Hornet maybe?... and BTW...Welcome Home Brother!

16 posted on 02/16/2018 9:14:25 AM PST by M-cubed
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To: M-cubed; VietVet876

Welcome home to both of you brothers ... I like my 5.56x45 in 62 grain as opposed to 55 grain


17 posted on 02/16/2018 9:18:47 AM PST by clamper1797 (We are getting close to the last "box")
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To: VietVet876

5.56 oe .223


18 posted on 02/16/2018 9:31:28 AM PST by DownInFlames
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To: DownInFlames
5.56 oe .223

Ruger Mini 14 fires either, very little difference in the two, size wise.

19 posted on 02/16/2018 10:36:41 AM PST by itsahoot (There will be division, as long as there is money to be divided.)
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Enough difference for an AR15


20 posted on 02/16/2018 11:00:39 AM PST by DownInFlames
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