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The Motives Behind the Massacre
Townhall.com ^ | February 16, 2018 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 02/16/2018 5:37:05 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 02/16/2018 5:37:05 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Enough is enough!” “This can’t go on!” “This has to stop!”

Fine. Now tell me when ANYTHING the Left say this sort of thing about EVER got fixed by THEM?


2 posted on 02/16/2018 5:45:18 AM PST by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: Kaslin

Remove their remaining licensure regulation and this is the best available policy to minimize ( can’t expect to ever totally eliminate) damage by crazies —-
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/21714


3 posted on 02/16/2018 5:46:49 AM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicans aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: Kaslin

Generally, in almost all of these episodes....they all lead back to prescription drug use, and a mind that is dulled by the effect of the drug. They have lost the ability to reason with themselves and recognize good from bad. If you pull up every single mass murder since the 1960s...with the exception of the Texas Tower shooting of 1966...they all lead back to some kind of drug usage. In the Tower shooting, he had mental issues brewing.

If you went and forced the companies to all halt production and forbid sales...you’d probably notice a decrease in mass shootings within one single year.


4 posted on 02/16/2018 5:47:25 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Kaslin
We are a formerly Christian society in an advanced state of decomposition.

That's it in a nutshell.

The Left crushed the "horrible" America of the 1950's and early 1960's and gave us what we have today. And it's only going to get worse. Much worse.

Enjoy.

5 posted on 02/16/2018 5:48:53 AM PST by TTFlyer
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To: TalBlack

Kids that are expelled should be put in reform school until they are deemed safe to go back to normal schools.


6 posted on 02/16/2018 5:51:52 AM PST by refermech
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To: pepsionice

The tower shooter had a brain tumor.


7 posted on 02/16/2018 5:52:58 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Kaslin

An angry mental illness, that does not rise to the standard of ‘lack of mental competence’.


8 posted on 02/16/2018 5:56:08 AM PST by Fhios (1988 - Where's Waldo :: 2018 - Where's Jeff Sessions.)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe if the Lamestream media would stop using the scumbags’ names and showing their faces, and referred to shooters in reports as “Some @$$hole...” ?


9 posted on 02/16/2018 5:56:53 AM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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Sorry, but this guy’s “motive” was untreated mental illness - something found in all of the adolescent male killers who have shot up schools. He may have been encouraged by prior incidents to express his insanity this way, but his motive was simply that he was crazy.

The school system provides no way to deal with these people; not only does it make it almost impossible for teachers or school administrators to get them out too the classrooms and protect the other children, the existing state of mental health care makes it impossible for the potential killers to get what they need: in-patient treatmetn at a residential, locked adolescent mental health facility.

Broken families certainly make it easier to fall through the cracks, but one of the reasons you see broken families by the time the psychotic adolescent has reached the killing stage is that the family has usually had years of the impossible task of dealing with a mentally ill child. In addition, in many cases the family is also afraid of the child but is unable to get any permanent residential commitment. The 72 hour Baker Act commitment does absolutely nothing.

Most of the cases Buchanan lists have nothing in common. Islam was the motivation in the Pulse massacre, and (in my opinion) probably in the Las Vegas massacre as well, although in this case the actual killer may have been hired to do it.

The killing of the black congregation in Charleston is the only one that was similar. It was another product of a young male who had had mental problems and been known to have a fascination with violence and fantasies of killing throughout his adolescence - and who should have been committed years before, except that his prominent family probably thought there’d be a stigma (for them) attached to acknowledging his problems.

So the problem of killings by the adolescent male psychopath and those by the terrroist are two different things.


10 posted on 02/16/2018 5:57:32 AM PST by livius
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How did he buy a gun and pass a background check?

Nikolas Cruz Reportedly a Former Mental Health Clinic Patient Prior to Shooting


11 posted on 02/16/2018 5:59:22 AM PST by mplc51
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To: pepsionice

Stop with the Scientology bs. It is an evil heart that causes this with 2 cures. GOD in our hearts and guns in our hands.


12 posted on 02/16/2018 5:59:40 AM PST by rebel25 (GOD, Family, guns, and duck hunting, everything else is just noise.)
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After this last shooting, I thought of a way to at least reduce the risk of these happening.

It’s about the gun free zones, and about what I heard on the radio this morning a speaker say to a large group. He said the first responders to this were the teachers and staff at the school, and got huge applause.

I agree. But it’s too bad none of them were armed. They may have been able to respond a little better. And if the perp KNEW that teachers were allowed to carry, he may have rethought doing it in the first place.

But it goes farther. Schools are not the only “gun free” zone. So are the secured areas of airports as well as courthouses. But, interestingly, both of those have metal dedector checkpoints with armed guards to ensure that, since everybody is aware none of the people there can defend themselves, they are responsible for ensuring that nobody gets in with a gun to turn it into a turkey shoot.

Oddly, we don’t do that regarding our children. Perhaps we should.

My idea is simple. For a publicly run place to be “gun free”, those responsible for the safety of those inside will be held legally responsible if they show negligence in their duty to protect the people inside. Having no metal detectors run by armed security guards is, in fact, gross negligence.

To cut to the chase: If you want to declare an area gun free, you must prove you have metal detectors and armed guards at all entrances where a perp may enter, knowing they are responsible, as would be security staff at an airport.

Of course, if they choose to not make it a gun free zone, it means teachers will be able to carry at the school.

So, either way, the risk for a wanna-be shooter is significantly enhanced. And that’s the goal really. The core goal is not to stop them before they shoot more people. The goal is to stop them from even trying. For crying out loud, it’s why banks have security guards.


13 posted on 02/16/2018 6:03:58 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: Kaslin

There are insightful pearls in this document.

First, we live in a society where our previously held-dear Judeo-Christian Ethics and Morality has been pushed aside and made light of by the political left and their mouthpieces, the entertainment industry and media.

Second, we live in a society where the leftist “sociologists” define everyone as either victim or perpetrator. Failure is the unfair result of another’s undeserved success.

Third, we live in a society where the political left has been preaching a doctrine of helplessness and victimhood. Nothing is possible without the permission and intervention by the all-knowing and all-controlling nanny state.

Fourth, right and wrong have been adjudged to be situational and relative. To state someone’s actions are wrong is to be judgmental, racist, homophobic, Islamophobic, Mysoginistic, and Fascist. To disagree with someone of a leftist position are to be the same.

It is time, way past time, to stomp our collective foot down on the societal cancers called leftism.


14 posted on 02/16/2018 6:08:59 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Build KateÂ’s Wall! Never Forget!)
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To: TTFlyer

“We are a formerly Christian society in an advanced state of decomposition.”

That is the biggest reason. No spiritual or even moral upbringing, broken homes, the prescription of psycho drugs and a mass media culture that preaches the futility of life. It is easier to blame the guns and it fits the political agenda to emasculate this country. The real evil is those who want to tear this country down because they are envious of our success.


15 posted on 02/16/2018 6:10:04 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves. Socialism is governmental theft!)
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To: TalBlack

They refuse to discipline their children and wonder why they act out like this.

Dr. Spock was an idiot.


16 posted on 02/16/2018 6:15:11 AM PST by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are! Easy?)
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To: rebel25

You can go down and list virtually all mass murders, and even get down into half of the single murders themselves (some having nothing to do with guns...where a gal/guy was murdered with a hammer or knife), and find a drug prescription drug connection.

That kid in the 1998 murder of his parents in Huntsville, Alabama....had like ten times the amount of Ritalin that normal kid ought to have in his system.


17 posted on 02/16/2018 6:16:24 AM PST by pepsionice
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Nikolas Cruz Reportedly a Former Mental Health Clinic Patient Prior to Shooting

Simply being a patient is not a factor for denying a permit. A person must be adjudicated mentally defective in court, or have been committed (again, by a court or another entity with such authority) to a mental institution.

Simply checking themselves in (no adjudication), or being ordered in for observation, doesn't cut it.

18 posted on 02/16/2018 6:19:30 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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Simply being a patient is not a factor for denying a permit.

Sorry, that should be "denying a purchase", not "denying a permit."

19 posted on 02/16/2018 6:21:47 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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This guy, unlike most, was taken alive. It will be interesting to see if the Deep State takes him out (like Lee Harvey Oswald) before he can enlighten us about why he did this.

It would not surprise me at all to find out that he was manipulated and encouraged to do this. It wouldn’t take much for someone to push a fragile mind over the edge, especially with drugs involved.


20 posted on 02/16/2018 6:30:38 AM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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