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I stand on my previous censure of Bibi over Hebron.
1 posted on 02/15/2018 2:04:42 AM PST by Eleutheria5
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One thing is clear: If the Israeli left gets control again, there won’t be anything left of Israel.


2 posted on 02/15/2018 2:06:18 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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He took cigars?

Took cigars? Took them where?

Oh Israel, when will you learn? When it comes to cigar scandals, our "Kung Fu" is stronger! LMAO...


5 posted on 02/15/2018 2:24:29 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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" ... – over what? He took cigars?"

I see the, "it's just sex" folks are hard at work on behalf of Bibi.

If the police say he should be indicted I seriously doubt it's just that he took cigars but since I gather that the AG who Bibi appointed will make the final decision, I feel sure the side pumping the only cigars meme will prevail.

6 posted on 02/15/2018 2:44:15 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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It's hard to reconcile cigars for Bibi and champagne with the $300,000 number being thrown around. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

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11 posted on 02/15/2018 4:58:32 AM PST by SJackson (The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a replacement)
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This is cigar-gate.

Not since Monica...

13 posted on 02/15/2018 5:42:06 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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I’ll bet Bibi didn’t do unto the cigars as Bill Clinton did to his!


15 posted on 02/15/2018 9:03:59 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Eleutheria5

When I read about the cigars I laughed. That part of this “scandal” is so absurd. Does the PM not have the right to have friends, to share meals and be offered a stogie and a couple glasses of wine etc?

But just being honest with myself, I also know that part of the story is being managed by Bibi allies. I am a big fan of Bibi, always have. And I have not read or seen anything that reads like a smoking gun. But the stories do say “accepted gifts” and this is more than just cigars. I admit, I have no idea what these gifts are - rides in airplanes? Artwork? Again, the PM should have the right to have friends and be given birthday gifts or thoughtful gifts from friends and family provided of course it is not a bribe, not ridiculously extravagant especially if it is from people doing business with or needing things from the government. What is the value of all of it?

One way to judge is to put in all in perspective. What is the value of all gifts, over what period of time, how much of these gifts as a percentage of his personal wealth, who gave them and what they may have wanted in return if anything, and how does all this compare to what he may have potentially done if he were really intending to be corrupt. I would think Bibi, having been PM many times over decades could have finagled many millions of dollars over the years if he were a corrupt person. I don’t see or hear anything resembling that kind of scale. So my gut tells me this probably does not rise to the level of intentional criminality.

The other charge about him conspiring to damage one of the newspapers I know less about, I know nothing of his involvement or what he is accused of actually doing that would be criminal or corrupt. Trump goes on TV and attacks CNN, NYT, WP, for example.


17 posted on 02/17/2018 2:26:25 AM PST by monkeyshine
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